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I think we're getting off point here....is there another prop for vanishing, transposition and production of coins that has some well established routines to it etc. I found the cup that funsway mentioned. But are there routines for its use? And I don't want any one trick ponies if you get my meaning. Smile



No there is not any other prop that is as versatile as the Okito Box. Do you have the booklet on the box as well, you could find more effects with it in that booklet.

Other props are a one routine effect.

To bad Johnson Products has disappeared, they use to make additional boxes that one could expand on with the box, ending in a sold brass box that was a hunk of brass.




So your saying in the over 400 years of magic there is no other prop that does what the okito box allows you to?
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I’ve used okito boxes for over thirty years. not once have I ever been asked about or challenge to what it was. it was just the box my coins were kept it. (albeit weird stuff happened with the coins and the box at the beginning and end of my coin routine, but I always just treated like a box and never explain it).

this last year I started using a quiver+ wallet and treat it the same way. it is just something I keep the coins in. (albeit weird stuff along the way....)
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Plan "B" is to obtain Bobo's (or any other "updated" book, if that's your pleasure) and learn real sleight of hand.

Then you can use any container that strikes your fancy.

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"To bad Johnson Products has disappeared, they use to make additional boxes that one could expand on with the box, ending in a sold brass box that was a hunk of brass".

Johnson Magic is still around and they still make the plug box. Never did like the "sucker" plug box bit.

Go here:
https://www.johnsonmagicproducts.com/sho......fa339809
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I got the O-Korto box set. Then, later I got all the Chazpro boxes. And, like the OP, I got bored. Then, somehow, I learned about Dave Neighbors book:

https://coinjurer.com/?product=the-profe......eighbors

I have a RENEWED enthusiasm for these! The very first trick in the book, is what I'm working on now. Dave's boxes are the Chazpro Buddha line:

https://cdn6.bigcommerce.com/s-rzbcrah0/.......jpg?c=2

But I like the Johnson O-Korto Box set! I don't use the "small" box. I also see no point in the "plug" box. It signifies an OBVIOUS switch. Not a fan of the mag boxes. I've lost too many mag and shimmed halves to mess with them. Keeping it simple. Ungaffed halves and an ungaffed Okito box or Boston Box. And now, I've been alerted that Chazpro has a DOLLAR size box in Buddha!

http://www.chazpro.com/buddha-okito-box-dollar-size-brass/

My hands are pretty small, but I bet I could run the thing! I'm a sucker for these Buddha boxes! Bill's right. In 400 years, I do NOT believe there is ANYTHING like the Okito Box!

My .02...

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Ya know...thinking about it...there are these:

https://www.vikingmagic.com/product/wizard-coin-cups/

But these ARE a sort of "one trick pony". there are DOZENS of routines with the Okito Box.

Jes' saying...
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Hi Doug,
Thanks So much Man ! Smile But there is Shell stuff With A box in there too! Smile
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The original post require the use of a prop.

In coin magic there is very little available that is on the same level of versatility as the Okito coin box.

So until someone comes up with another item like Okito box, then the answer is "Yes, - over 400 years of magic there is NO other prop that does what the okito box allows you to".

Please prove me wrong.
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I think we're getting off point here....is there another prop for vanishing, transposition and production of coins that has some well established routines to it etc. I found the cup that funsway mentioned. But are there routines for its use? And I don't want any one trick ponies if you get my meaning. Smile



No there is not any other prop that is as versatile as the Okito Box. Do you have the booklet on the box as well, you could find more effects with it in that booklet.

Other props are a one routine effect.

To bad Johnson Products has disappeared, they use to make additional boxes that one could expand on with the box, ending in a sold brass box that was a hunk of brass.



they stiil exist ive the same problem with their okito addons.
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I think we're getting off point here....is there another prop for vanishing, transposition and production of coins that has some well established routines to it etc. I found the cup that funsway mentioned. But are there routines for its use? And I don't want any one trick ponies if you get my meaning. Smile


I suggested that Bike Cup because you originally asked for "an attention getter I can use for multiple effects." Now this has changed to "well established routines" that you can copy/emulate.

-- a big difference for me. I assumed that you were looking for something that allowed your own creativity to come into play. "Other than Okito" could mean "other than boring."

No problem -- I would have noted earlier that an eBook "Co-Lapse" has dozens of effects using such a cup. Plus, many Okito effects can be performed when it is collapsed.
Since this cup can be gaffed/ungaffed "on the fly" most ChopCup effects/routines can be performed as well. Even coins to glass effects.

Are you limited to coins? Many well established routines with small object (even C&B) can be performed using such a cup.

I also have dozens of effects and routines using a Spiral Coin Purse. It can work alone or be paired with a box or cup. The problem is that the sleights and moves are new and not well established. They only use principles older than an Okito Box. I do not create new effects/routines just to be different, but find in every object a potential fir orchestrating magic in the spectator's mind.
There is value in "traditional" and value in "new and different." Not sure where "well established" fits in.

I guess I am suggesting that you might look at the end result desired with your intended audience -- then work backwards to the ideal prop or technique to get it done. No prop or method should ever drive the creation/selection of a routine. It is great that you are looking 'outside the box" but now have no idea what you are really looking for.
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If you like Okito boxes and their friends, I'd suggest a coin cup. Al Cohen's Miracle coin cup is probably the best one to start out with, but it's extremely difficult to find (try searching for local magic shops that have a website you can order from). Ronjo also makes a great cup that's readily available. If you're curious about the differences, PM me.

Doug Brewer has a small book out for the coin cup, and some of those routines appear on NYCMS (volume 15). IMO that's plenty of material for the prop. To be fair, the coin cup can't compete with the Okito box for sheer volume of material, but the effects it can generate are great.
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On Jan 29, 2019, chucklerich wrote:
I think we're getting off point here....is there another prop for vanishing, transposition and production of coins that has some well established routines to it etc. I found the cup that funsway mentioned. But are there routines for its use? And I don't want any one trick ponies if you get my meaning. Smile



No there is not any other prop that is as versatile as the Okito Box. Do you have the booklet on the box as well, you could find more effects with it in that booklet.


Other props are a one routine effect.

To bad Johnson Products has disappeared, they use to make additional boxes that one could expand on with the box, ending in a sold brass box that was a hunk of brass.


Yes I have the Mohammed Bey Book. The Section I got he most from is the last few pages where different ways of turning and loading the box are discussed. If I could find a book full of moves like that I'd be one happy camper.
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No there is not any other prop that is as versatile as the Okito Box. Do you have the booklet on the box as well, you could find more effects with it in that booklet.

Other props are a one routine effect.

To bad Johnson Products has disappeared, they use to make additional boxes that one could expand on with the box, ending in a sold brass box that was a hunk of brass.


My hands aren't of a size that I could switch boxes.

Yes, I have the Mohammed Bey book, for me the last pages, where McLaughlin shares hus favorite moves is the most helpful part for me. If I could find a book(let) with just different moves to do different things with the Okito box (like what Bobo did for coin work) I would be so happy to get my hands on that. At one point I was going to do a "transporter" effect with 2 Okito Boxes(both in full view) but because the material I have on the boxes is limited I gave up on the idea.
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To change everything about the Okito Coin Box, go here:

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Mobius wallet?
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I'm at the point with okito boxes where I cannot see myself performing them too often anymore. I am looking for another showpiece that I can use with half dollars to make a number of them dissapear, switch for something else, etc. I know props don't make the magician but my I like having an attention getter I can use for multiple effects. Any constructive help would be appreciated. Smile

I think the learning material you have is not interesting you. Check this out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alUh14_MJKk&feature=youtu.be
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I'm not sure if this will interest you, but Midus Cups At Viking Mfg. may be worth a look.
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