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Shoreline99 New user 50 Posts |
Recently, I noticed, I think the pendulum is linked with subject's eye movements. The subject that pendulum is difficult to move can easily shake if you move your eyes sideways. Do you know what to call this phenomenon? According to my research, there was a similar description in McGill's The New Encyclopedia of Stage Hypnotism, but I would like to explain scientifically.
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mindmagic Inner circle London 1740 Posts |
Unless I'm missing something, McGill's "Ideomotor Method" is just a variation on the classic eye fixation ("swinging watch") induction.
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Shoreline99 New user 50 Posts |
The similar description referred to The "Pendulum Over Spiral" Method in Chapter 25. Does not this have anything to do with eye movements?
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mindmagic Inner circle London 1740 Posts |
Ah, I see what you mean. He refers to "spiral fixation" in his final notes, so I think it's really still a variation on the eye fixation induction, but with added suggestion to make the pendulum move.
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Matt Pulsar Inner circle 1130 Posts |
I'm not sure I understand what you are saying. Are you saying that you follow the pendulum with your eyes and they will start to respond?
A few things I find work well. First, if they are trying to control their arm so it can't move, it won't. You want them to relax the muscles in their arm while holding the pendulum. Second, they need to understand the if it's not responding the onus is on them. They are the one making the contact. Third, Have them, either out loud or in their minds, ask the crystal or pendulum bob to spin. Check out Stuart Palm's Beginner Pendulum Magic. I love pendulums!
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
I just ask them to look at the bob and then imagine it moving in a direction to indicate YES. Then it does...
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Shoreline99 New user 50 Posts |
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On Jan 17, 2019, mindmagic wrote: What do you mean "his final notes?" It means an afterword? |
Shoreline99 New user 50 Posts |
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On Jan 17, 2019, Matt Pulsar wrote: That's right. I'm sorry I didn't make it clear enough. Well, this is just my hypothesis though. |
funsway Inner circle old things in new ways - new things in old ways 9982 Posts |
I have had blind people use a pendulum effectively, and prompts like musicals notes and finger directions.
Yes, I think that eye movements can be used to influence the behavior of a pendulum, but hardly that they are necessary or predictable or best choice.
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Shoreline99 New user 50 Posts |
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On Jan 18, 2019, funsway wrote: I appreciate you doing it. |
mindmagic Inner circle London 1740 Posts |
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On Jan 17, 2019, Shoreline99 wrote: The first paragraph of the "Note to Hypnotist" at the end of the piece, p.144. |
Senor Fabuloso Inner circle 1243 Posts |
Wouldn't any subliminal influence help to create the ideomotor response desired?
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aligator Inner circle Canada 2044 Posts |
Probably...... it should.
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kannon Inner circle BCN 1025 Posts |
Interesting thoughts on eye movement
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