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Somewhere on my book (video) shelf is a video where the magician ties two knots on the rope. He blows on one and the other knot falls off. He looks surprised and then blows on the space where the first knot was and the other knot falls off.

My old brain remembers the routine but, not what video it's on or who did it.

Help!
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I don't remember that specific routine, but you can accomplish the falling off of knots using "pop off" knots.

You can get set up for this by using an extra bit (see Fulves Self-working Rope M., p 47)
or by judicious cutting of a square knot (see Ency of Rope p115, or other references to the Panama Rope trick, and more expensive resources such as "Pop's" Mongolian Pop Knot, which is a full routine, on Daryl's Rope Magic DVDs)

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Pop Haydn sells the Mongolian Pop Knot routine as well.

https://www.popsmagic.com/store/p33/Pop_......DEO.html


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On Jan 16, 2019, tgplano wrote:
Somewhere on my book (video) shelf is a video where the magician ties two knots on the rope. He blows on one and the other knot falls off. He looks surprised and then blows on the space where the first knot was and the other knot falls off.

My old brain remembers the routine but, not what video it's on or who did it.

Help!


There is two ways of doing this, usually the rope is cut and then the loose ends are tied together.

There is another way, but there is more handling involved when the rope is not cut in two pieces. This method you cannot just cause the knot to drop off as you describe.
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I'm very familiar with both Daryl's routine and Pop Haydn's routine. This isn't in either one. I'll look at Fulves' book but, this is a video.

Any other ideas?
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I guess you have to go through your video collection. I have covered both methods, and if it not them, then I have no idea what you are referring to.

As you describe the action, if you pull on each end both knots should fall off. Not just one, and then the other. If you don't cut the rope, then there is no way to do what you describe. Could be you are remembering it differently, that is common with magic effects.
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Tgplano, I know I have that video, but I don't remember for sure which one it is. I'm thinking that it's an alternate ending on the video that comes with Daryl's Rainbow Ropes, which starts with (apparently) three ropes of different colors which are tied together, only to have the knots pop off, leaving one long multi-colored rope. The "first one, then the other" is accomplished by the way the two knots are tied.

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That effect is called, "Rainbow Ropes". Daryl made the out of a knit yarn material.
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Found it! It's on "Daryl's Expert Rope Magic... made Easy! Volume 8 - The Great White Rope", "Triple Rope Mystery" at 25.49. This is the same effect as Rainbow Ropes, but with all white ropes.

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If you buy the Daryl's DVD set, the Triple Rope Mystery is in the third(and last) DVD.

The basic method for the pop-off knots is the first one that I mentioned above - Daryl teaches how to do this on-the-fly. The knots pop-off sequentially based solely upon where you hold the rope. The effect uses one other subterfuge, which really adds to the mystery.

The overall effect can also be found in Scott Guinn's Great Scott its Magic DVD (under the name Magic Jumprope - a wonderful effect that uses a young helper). Scott credits Patriotic Ropes in his DVD.

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Thanks murf and John Long. I narrowed it down to Daryl's DVDs and watched the first one. I guess I should have started at the back. I'll view it tomorrow and report back.

Thanks again, Ted
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Well, I've followed your suggestions and that is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you for all of your help. That's why I love the Café.

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That's why I love the Café.

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Thanks to all you gentlemen. In spite of all the junk we put up with on the Café, this is what makes it truly worth it.
Finding what we need. thanks to all.
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I have been doing the rope effect called Skip & Snip from Practical magic.
And just love the routein.It's an cut and restore effect using a jump rope.
And the end of the routein three knots fly off of the jump rope.Can be played
for kids or adults.It also can be used for closeup parlor or stage.Even could
be used for table hopping.Check it out on their site.There is a video of it.
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Bowers:

That sounds very much like the premise of Guinn's. But I will say that Guinn's routining of that is worth looking at.

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The jump rope cut and restored is a very old effect, forget who invented it, but it was not on the market for many years until Supreme and Practical Magic brought it back. I believe there is a discussion on the Café years ago. The puzzle is with jump rope has wood handles on each end, and yet the rope is cut and restored.

If you can jump rope or have a daughter that jumps rope, what a novel way to start out this effect. Then go into the cut and restored.
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The overall effect can also be found in Scott Guinn's Great Scott its Magic DVD (under the name Magic Jumprope - a wonderful effect that uses a young helper). Scott credits Patriotic Ropes in his DVD.

John


My DVD is available from Lybrary.com. "The Magic Jumprope" also appears in my ebook, "My Best to You: Close-Up and Stand-Up," along with 5 close-up routines that don't use cards or coins, 4 routines for parlor/platform, and two other routines for kids shows.

"I've been privileged to see Scott perform these routines in front of live audiences (as opposed to dead audiences, I guess). How do you follow magic legend Shimada after he's just finished his classic act? That was the dilemma Scott found himself in at a magic convention, and he used his magic jumprope routine, which was a huge success. It's a great routine for kids and family audiences, and the difficulty level is just above zero." - Raymonde Crow

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One of my favorite rope tricks is from Gene Anderson's book. It's called "Knot Dr.Seuss".Worth checking out.
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