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tyler_rabbit
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Thanks for all the kind words guys!
Yeah I was wondering if something free would be perceived as having less value than something for sale.
Like "if it's free, it must not be too good."
Time will tell.
So far about 60 people have discovered and accessed the routines. For me, that's pretty rewarding!
If it was 1000 views right off the bat, I'd probably be bummed out that so many people are getting access to some of the obscure and useful secrets contained therein.
Thanks again for the support guys!
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I'm in! I'm a little disappointed that I needed a hint, since the clue I needed was staring me in the face and now the whole thing makes so much sense. It was all really nicely done, down to the website name's acronym.

I really, really like this, in part because it's in line with the way magic learning should be: if you want it enough, you'll put in the time and effort and bask in the reward of knowledge when you get there.

Thanks, Mr. Rabbit.
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Thanks! Am glad you got access 12fingers!

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On May 30, 2019, puggo wrote:
If this was on a $30 download, it would probably be on Latest & Greatest with all the usual hype.

I actually did post about this in Latest and Greatest, but it got pushed down pretty quickly. It's here if anyone feels like resurrecting it:
https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......orum=218

CHEERS!
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On May 30, 2019, puggo wrote:
I'm surprised that this thread is not more active


Really? I'm not. It's only been a week, and it's a first-of-its-kind treasure hunt to unveil the routines... Getting ahold of a copy is not as easy as pulling out your wallet and paying for something, or going to the library to borrow a copy. Heck... even if you want it (and people do judging by the YouTube comments) you can't simply have it. You have to figure it out, and that's no trivial task.

I think this project will grow in popularity over time.

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On May 31, 2019, twelvefingers wrote:
I'm a little disappointed that I needed a hint...


Yeah, this is what I'm trying to avoid Smile ! I'd rather never see the routines than get a hint/spoiler, which says a lot because I'm dying to see the routines!
All about borrowed coins.
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On May 31, 2019, scotchrocket wrote:
Yeah, this is what I'm trying to avoid Smile ! I'd rather never see the routines than get a hint/spoiler, which says a lot because I'm dying to see the routines!


Based on our totally hint-free convos, I'm 1000% certain you're overthinking it!
It's frustrating cuz I REALLY want you to get it!
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On May 31, 2019, tyler_rabbit wrote:
Based on our totally hint-free convos, I'm 1000% certain you're overthinking it!
It's frustrating cuz I REALLY want you to get it!


I'm trying to keep that in mind; to slow down and see what I've been missing. I'm sure I'll get there.

After all... I've only tracked just over 150 hrs so far (plus the other 50+ before I started tracking), so the night is young.

Here are a couple of the things that have made this project exciting, frustrating, and difficult:

1). When you're thrashing around with no direction, every idea takes a long time to verify whether the idea is "right" or "wrong". No matter what discrepancy you pick up on, you have go down the rabbit hole (no pun intended) and exhaust any and all options, to be able to cross it off your list. I suspect once you know the clue(s)/solution(s), you quickly forget how blind you were before you had a clue, so a concrete example of this is that you have to try every password in 5-7 different places. So when you've tried >700 passwords, that means >4,900+ attempts.

2). It's hard not to overthink it when you've watched all the videos -- all the videos -- 100 times. You can't go back to "not" having seem them/things/ideas. You can't go back to the content being fresh. You can't un-see things, and you get stuck in the rut of ideas you've keep hashing & rehashing. You can't NOT to overthink it, once you've overthought it!

I could go on ad nauseam but it's too soon after the, there are already plenty of spoilers in this thread (you'd think magicians would be better at explaining precarious secrets!) so I won't drone on too much, but that's a short follow up on the project so far, from one of the sad souls who hasn't found the clues.

Thanks again for putting this project together, Tyler.
All about borrowed coins.
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Can anyone get Steve to make this a blast email? I'm not sure if all the card decks and certain routines are from paying ad revenue to get the email, but maybe he would consider this for a free gift like this.
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This was so much fun. I also did not want a hint. I was so pleased with myself that I found the first clue of where to go very quickly. Then I found what else I needed in a little more time, like 2 hours. It was staring me in the face and so silly I missed it. I was being punished for being so smug. Smile I think watching the videos too much can get you too deeply into details at that point. Like Tyler said, "overthinking it". I don't think it is a clue really to say that you just need to step back and see it from a distance or like a child would. I totally get what scotchrocket said about 4900 attempts if you are overthinking it. Skip the rest of only this sentence it case it is a clue but... I realized that to think like Tyler did and what his goal was, he wouldn't have made it so I had to have so many variables/attempts.

I wrote Tyler to ask for a clue because while I found what else I needed, I was unsure of a little piece of possibly conflicting information and just wanted to know if I needed it or not. I didn't want to have it solved, just wanted to save time. So I don't feel for me anyway, that that kind of hint took anything away. So don't be afraid to ask for a hint. Tyler will just tell you yes or no so you can still feel you solved it but just saved some time.

******* POSSIBLE CLUE FOLLOWS ******** I don't think it gives anything away really, but don't read past here if you don't want anything that might help you Smile The rest of you, read on and PM it to me.

But I would like to find out who of you was smarter than me and got the last clue that makes things a bit easier. You don't need it to solve things if you use brute force, but while I knew that was probably important, I couldn't make the connection to get the order of things. This is the one part that required more of an ability to tie things together. But what were your puzzle solving steps? How did you think it through? In hindsight, I know how I would think it through. And do any of you follow Chris Ramsay's puzzle solving Youtube channel? It's fun to see problem solving like that to me.
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I got it. I needed a couple hints. I was on the rightish track concept-wise, but deep on a wild goose chase in terms of making it work. The real answer turned out to be much simpler and, as others noted, a bit more direct, than I had thought. Also, I spent an hour or so thinking "Performrance" was key... until I noticed him admitting that was just a typo in the comments.

This was lots of fun, either way, though I'm kicking myself for needing the hints.
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Although "performance" was sort of important in the end, if you get what I mean Smile
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Performance, yes. Performrance (the typo), not so much.
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Right. That's why I put the "performance" in quotes, to separate it. I wonder how many others have found the website and want to comment on the material. I use gimmicks, but not many props. I like the hat or dice cup now just for one of the routines.
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I finally accessed the routines'videos yesterday night and I just had to register at the Café to publicly thank Tyler Rabbit for releasing this project to the coin magic community.

I have not started working on any of them yet but I have viewed the videos and I can say that I like practically everything that I saw. Some of the routines will probably not become personal favorites but I will certanly get a kick out of trying them out and will learn more than a few things from them, most I plan to keep doing for a long time.
Based on a first look the Fernabout coins is the routine I like best and the one I plan to learn first.

The quality of the videos was excellent.

Once again, thank you for your efforts Tyler.

As a side note: I loved the youtube videos containing the hints, the music/magic choreography was spot on, expecially for the 1 coin routine (in that particular routine I loved the way Tyler managed to use his head, does that move have a name or is it something new?)

Guglielmo
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