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On Nov 23, 2019, JasonEngland wrote:
Book will be at the printers by then I would imagine, but probably not back FROM the printers by Christmas. First part of 2020.

Jason


Is there any chance we could get autographed copies like he did with the casino game protection books??
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On Nov 23, 2019, JasonEngland wrote:
Book will be at the printers by then I would imagine, but probably not back FROM the printers by Christmas. First part of 2020.

Jason


Perfect timing for Blackpool 2020 Smile
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Cheetos! The views for this thread are near 30 K. I want to see a preorder and pay my way now.
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Cheetos! The views for this thread are near 30 K. I want to see a preorder and pay my way now.

That views are probably mine! I check this topic almost 20 times a day ahhaahahah
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You are one smart cookie. Now shut up.
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The book went to the printer today. The release date will be January 2020 (most likely later in the month). A website will be up soon.
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On Dec 18, 2019, Ron Conley wrote:
The book went to the printer today. The release date will be January 2020 (most likely later in the month). A website will be up soon.



Thanks for the update Ron....




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Great news! Can’t wait to get my hands on a copy.


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On Dec 18, 2019, Ron Conley wrote:
The book went to the printer today. The release date will be January 2020 (most likely later in the month). A website will be up soon.


HALLELUJAH!!
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Who is "Snape"? just curious. he likes everything. Just wondering about "Snape"
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Now would be a good time to download this free book from Vanishing Inc
https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/magic-......in-mind/

And then, read the essay, "Next Book Syndrome" by Darwin Ortiz.
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On Dec 20, 2019, skillzilla wrote:
Now would be a good time to download this free book from Vanishing Inc
https://www.vanishingincmagic.com/magic-......in-mind/

And then, read the essay, "Next Book Syndrome" by Darwin Ortiz.


We could, or we could just carry on with our well justified excitement about finally having a chance to study a masterwork from the top practicioner of this branch of sleight of hand.
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We could, or we could just carry on with our well justified excitement about finally having a chance to study a masterwork from the top practitioner of this branch of sleight of hand.


This.

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I would agree with skillzilla's post in almost every other thread on this forum.
Magic in Mind is the best thing Vanishing Inc have put out (they can go away now, they've peaked). It's required reading - especially in a world where many of the sources cost large amounts on the second hand market. Being a well-read beginning magician is very difficult these days, without spending huge amounts of money or pirating - we as a community would do well to remember that.

The Darwin Ortiz essay applies for 90%+ of the books released in the last ten years. Next book syndrome is part of the reason why we have so much overpriced magic books of disappointing quality (to my recollection, I've only bothered with one magic book published this year, and it was uniquely disappointing) being released. We magicians have insatiable appetites and middling tastes.

However, I think the Forte book will be a notable exception. This is a life's work book. Forte is not the kind of person to release something new every 6 months or 3 years. And I say this as someone who is desperately trying to move away from the "circle jerk" of magic Mr Ortiz refers to.
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I’ll be buying this book and I think it’s safe to say Darwin will too.
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I think you have to realize that even though Forte is essentially releasing a book that is "magic based" there is still a big difference between mainstream published books and what Forte will be releasing.
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Quoting Mr. Ortiz

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It's true that there are people in the magic business who are masters of using the Internet to whip magicians into hysterical anticipation over whatever they're planning to market next.
Their posts usually start with, "I've just had the good fortune to see an advance copy of John Doe's _____." (Translation: "My company will soon be marketing John Doe's _____.")

Nevertheless, I don't believe that most of the blame for the periodic outbreaks of next-book hysteria among magicians falls on the shoulders of authors, publishers, or dealers. At the merest whisper of some new book in the works, magicians will take to the Internet to whip each other into a frenzy. It's the magicians themselves who produce ridiculously unrealistic expectations in their own minds for each new book on the horizon.

I don't think that hype is the right word for what is going on here. A producer promoting his product with exaggerated claims is hype. A group of people stroking each other into an orgiastic frenzy isn't hype; it's a circle jerk.

Magicians will talk about checking their mailbox each day in breathless anticipation of receiving the NEXT great magic book. I can sympathize. I recall doing the same thing as a child waiting for the arrival of the decoder ring I’d sent away for by using breakfast cereal box tops. In fact, magicians awaiting the next magic book or video set most closely resemble children awaiting the arrival of Santa Claus (except that they don't show quite as much maturity).

Indeed, I think that the anticipation itself and the fantasizing they can indulge in while waiting for the NEXT book is precisely what many magicians have become addicted to. The daydreaming of possibilities, the breathless expectation, the speculating with other magicians who are just as ignorant as they are about what the book may contain and when it will appear is the real high.
The proof is that when there is no new book on the horizon, they begin experiencing withdrawal. They'll start their own rumors and desperately ask each other if they know of any books in the works. It's all a sad search for another high (as well as a search for an excuse not to read the books they already own.) There always needs to be something in the pipeline to fuel the pipe dreams.
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Interesting quote Skillzilla, and I’m of the opinion that the upcoming Forte volumes supported as they are by illustrious contributors like Jason England, Ron Conley, Andrew Wimhurst etc is the exception that proves the rule.

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Skillzilla will get the same responses they got after their first post, because quoting an essay you've already cited doesn't add anything or strengthen your argument.

The counterpoint to Ortiz here is that when the anticipation is justified, his argument is defeated. In my opinion, I think the anticipation is justified here. People are excited in this thread (maybe not to the extent of an orgiastic frenzy, but maybe we're just tired), and that can only be a good thing. I think it's important to let people enjoy things, if they're justified in enjoying them.
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If Skillzilla thought it would be a good idea to draw attention to Darwin Ortiz's quote then he really doesn't know who Steve Forte is. Darwin Ortiz is making a valid point about the vast amount of cleverly marketed rubbish that now circulates through social media to grab your attention but Darwin Ortiz would be the first to say that this up and coming book of Steve Forte is not just another magic book.
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