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Hello,

Can anyone point me to the name or source of the modified Elmsley count used here? It involves pulling the bottom packet out and placing it on top.

https://youtu.be/buKxviE_FnQ

I think I have seen it on one of Mr. Pellikaan's videos but for the life of me cannot find it there or elsewhere.

BTW check out the entire Pellikaan YT channel if you have not already. There are some things in here which will blow your mind even if you are generally tuned in to the methods.

Thanks.
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Am I missing something? Its just an Elmsley count. He is just moving his right hand more than his left hand, as he peels off the top card.
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I would say this is his "2 as 4 Count" https://www.lybrary.com/2-as-4-count-p-585519.html
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Thanks for the responses. I have the material from the great lybrary.com and can't seem to find it. It is not the 2-4 count, which involves just a straight switch of card and packet. IncantoMagic: It involves pulling the bottom packet out and placing it on top. This is a displacement not found in the basic Elmsley. In part that is how the jacks appear in sequence. I believe he is using eight cards in total here.
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Could it be an OPEC (Out of Position Elmsley Count)?

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Thanks for the responses. I have the material from the great lybrary.com and can't seem to find it.

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Thanks for trying, people.

Yes, lybrary is great.
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I just tried one last time to figure it out and am giving up.

I noticed in the video Mr. Pellikaan appears to be wearing his pyjamas.
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OK, by putting on my pajamas (and using Excel, no joke) I figured out the count. I will post the solution in the Secret Sessions.
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He is doing the count that Sam Schwartz uses in Back Flip.
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Stickmondoo: you nailed it, friend. Very smart! Thanks.
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Hello,

Can anyone point me to the name or source of the modified Elmsley count used here? It involves pulling the bottom packet out and placing it on top.

https://youtu.be/buKxviE_FnQ



That's a great little packet effect -- I like it much better than his new "Turn" effect. What's the name of it, and is it available anywhere?
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So far as I know it is not commercially available. Just called what the title is on youtube.
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Hello there that's not the Elmsley count.. its the 2 for 4 count.. He is the Master of counts in my opinion.
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Peter is really good with counts -- and with wax -- but he relies heavily on two counts that you don't tend to see a lot. One is the 2 for 4 count, and he makes it look a lot easier than it is. The other is the Taytelbaum count (from Eddy Taytelbaum).
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Peter is really good with counts -- and with wax -- but he relies heavily on two counts that you don't tend to see a lot. One is the 2 for 4 count, and he makes it look a lot easier than it is. The other is the Taytelbaum count (from Eddy Taytelbaum).



Thanks mike never knew what that 2nd count was..
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I just purchased Peter’s new effect “Turn” from penguin magic. Great effect if I can get the count down as smoothly as his does it. Explanation video goes over the count just enough to give you a basic idea of the mechanics.
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I just purchased Peter’s new effect “Turn” from penguin magic. Great effect if I can get the count down as smoothly as his does it. Explanation video goes over the count just enough to give you a basic idea of the mechanics.


In the demo, that first move of the count seems absolutely glaring to me. The rhythm is different, there is a pause, the fingers visibly adjust in an odd way. I wanted to buy it, but I thought, "If that's Peter in the demo, and that's as good as the beginning of the count can look, there's no way I would ever present that to a lay audience." They may not know what exactly was done, but they will sure know something was done.
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It’s not Peter in the instructions, I’m guessing Peter is not doing the demo either. I have seen videos of Peter doing the count, and it does look good in his hands.
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