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sc24evr
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Lance Burton will be on the tonight show tonight (tuesday night) incase anyone cares to watch.
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Thanks for making me stay up until 12:30 last night Smile
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I hate the card trick he performed. It is overdone in Vegas, as in most shows perform it. What is it called anyway?
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It's called "Phil", sold at many magic dealers. The card Lance showed last night he had named "Bill". Coincidence?

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I saw Steve Dacri perform this trick at his Vegas show, and I was disappointed and the laypeople around me were even more so disappointed. Terrible.
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I have performed "Phil" numerous times to great reactions... Weird...

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I missed the performance, can somebody explain the effect to me?
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It just isn't amazing. It is an average run of the mill trick. My wife (a lay woman) can't stand seeing that trick performed, and she left when Burton pulled it out.
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It would be interesting to understand how Mr. Burton decided on that effect. "Let's see....I'm going to be on national television with time for one close-up effect. Which one trick can I do that will blow the nation away.....hmmmmm.....think I'll go with 'Bill'."

On the other hand, I was amazed at his first illusion. I can't figure out how he was able to replace the silicon with helium.
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A-HAH! The old silicon/helium switch! So that's how she levitated! I would have figured it out eventually.

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On 2004-05-12 13:31, hdoctor wrote:
It's called "Phil", sold at many magic dealers. The card Lance showed last night he had named "Bill". Coincidence?

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I wonder if this effect can be adapted for a card named "Jill?"
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It would be interesting to understand how Mr. Burton decided on that effect. "Let's see....I'm going to be on national television with time for one close-up effect. Which one trick can I do that will blow the nation away.....hmmmmm.....think I'll go with 'Bill'."

On the other hand, I was amazed at his first illusion. I can't figure out how he was able to replace the silicon with helium.




LoL. I didn't get it at first (I am a bit slow), but man...thanks for the good laugh!


Yes, why would he have chosen this effect to go before MILLIONS of people? He has so many other great effects. Heck, even the invisible deck would have been ten times better than that.
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Heck, even the invisible deck would have been ten times better than that.


"Even" the Invisible Deck? How could any card trick be better than that? That would have been a great choice for Burton, but he probably felt it was too common in magician's circles to get any respect with it. Got to hand it to Blaine, who's courageous enough to only care what laypeople think of him.
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Heck, even the invisible deck would have been ten times better than that.


"Even" the Invisible Deck? How could any card trick be better than that? That would have been a great choice for Burton, but he probably felt it was too common in magician's circles to get any respect with it. Got to hand it to Blaine, who's courageous enough to only care what laypeople think of him.


I agree.

Maybe Lance Burton needs a magic counsellor to help him pick out tricks....

I should make a resume.
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The "Phil trick" is a version of the classic "Oscar" effect. "Phil" however uses a different method.

The effect is a killer one, notwithstanding your wife's reactions. It has been a feature in many magicians acts and various versions of the effect have fooled coutless of audiences, both laymen and magician alike.

Like with so many of these tricks, few performers give proper thought to how to maximize the effect's impact. So we have people learning from having watched those who do not understand the trick properly.

I would not discount the power of this effect.
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That is the thing....it does fool people. Maybe sometimes it does....but the times I have seen it...it didn't fool hardly anyone.
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Then I would say the performer is not doing something correct. If indeed the PHIL deck was in use, I find it curious how a layperson could surmise the actual working. If the original Trost method was in use, I have a hard time seeing how a payperson would suspect such a strategem. And if the "fred" variation was employed, I KNOW the layperson would not catch on as too many trick use the principle successfully.

Why do you think it has failed on the occasions you have seen it do so?
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I bought "phil" from Mr Roy Walton's shop in Glasgow 4 weeks ago, I decided to take myself for a pint of beer on the next street to the shop. I opened it up,read the instructions, played with it a bit, loved it.Two pints later, the guy at the next table was very curious and asked what I was doing, as only a friendly Glaswegian would do,I said "my name's Kenny" what's yours? yes you guessed it "Phil" was the reply! What a guy to try it out on for the first time eh? Kenny
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On 2004-05-12 16:49, Astinus wrote:
That is the thing....but the times I have seen it...it didn't fool hardly anyone.


Astinus: are you really saying that your wife figured this out? Or laymen figure this out? I can't imagine more than 1% of spectators figuring this out if they see it performed.

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What about the lev, what do you guys think of that, I'm still pondering methods.
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