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Paulbmx12345 New user 33 Posts |
I have BoBo's book but it is so huge and I need some help finding some of the best routines or tricks in the book I'm interested in any type of coin magic (changes,coins across, matrix,vanishes etc..) So if you could help me out it would be appreciated. Thank you
" Why, Mr. Anderson, why? Why, why do you do it? Why, why get up? Why keep fighting? Do you believe you're fighting for something, for more than your survival? Can you tell me what it is, do you even know? Is it freedom or truth, perhaps peace - could it
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Paul, there is much to learn in coin magic, and there are no shortcuts. The book may be large, though no larger than a novel these days. Enjoy it as a read. Those who try for shortcuts usually just cheat themselves out of an education.
Start at page one and enjoy the tour of coin magic as it was back in the late 1950s. It is a good book.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Rob Elliott Elite user Reston VA 487 Posts |
That's like saying, "I've never flown a plane before, but I'd like to do some really cool barrel rolls in an F-16 by the end of the week. Can anybody help me out?"
The process of learning coin magic is exactly that -- a process. It takes years of study and practice. You can't learn it overnight; and you can't perform "some of the best routines or tricks in the book" without first learning and perfecting the sleights that make up those effects. If you really want to become a coin magician, you need to, at a bare minimum, be willing to put in the effort to learn the moves. If you're not willing to do that much, I suggest you find another hobby. Devote yourself to it and it will come to you over time. |
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Mike Wild Inner circle NY, PA, TX, MA, FL, NC 1290 Posts |
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Rob Elliott Elite user Reston VA 487 Posts |
Oh yeah. There's that too. Good point, Mike.
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Mike Wild Inner circle NY, PA, TX, MA, FL, NC 1290 Posts |
I think the study guide is a pretty good thing. It's not how I did MCM, but it appears to be a very complete, thorough, and efficient method of covering all the material. I may have gotten more out of MCM the first time or two I read it through, had a study guide been available back then. Best, Mike |
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Stuart Hooper Special user Mithrandir 759 Posts |
Too bad Opie got himself banned...he could tell us about it personally. Great guy, Opie.
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owen.daniel Inner circle England 1048 Posts |
I agree that this book really is a huge volume, and I too wish that I had been able to have a study guide such as Opie (why was he banned?) put out.
I find that the way that I first found interesting stuff from this book was by searching for a particular author. I had just bought "Milt Kort" by steven minch, so I checked the kort tricks in Bobo and these are great, I then searched similar tricks as the ones that he has in the book, and progressed. Kind of like looking up a word in the dictionary, and in the definition there is a word you don't know, so you then search that word too, etc. If you look at one trick, then look at tricks of a similar style, and decide which is best for you. if there is a trick by a certain magician that you trust, and during the description he mentions the magician who originally came up with the idea etc. search this guy out as well. Also, because it is a big book, make sure that you take notes of what routines are good, and those that are not so good, so you don't start reading a description, and then half way through you realise you already do this routine in your act! Good luck, enjoy the BOBO experience/journey! Owen P.S. I wrote a similar post titled "Speaking Volumes With Bobo", which has a couple of tricks you mentioned that you will want to check out. |
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harris Inner circle Harris Deutsch 8812 Posts |
Enjoy the journey into coin magic.
After almost thirty years, I still go back to the basics in this book. I finally went to a tailor to have a marked coin to pocket. I won't tell you were or what it is called. (because I can't remember. I guess I have Part timers Disease) Harris
Harris Deutsch aka dr laugh
drlaugh4u@gmail.com music, magic and marvelous toys http://magician.org/member/drlaugh4u |
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cloneman Elite user 474 Posts |
Can't beat Bobo, but don't neglect some of the DVD classics as well. I love both Roth and Rubenstein's videos. Both are great for laying out the basics.
"Anything is possible... if you don't know what you are talking about."
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Paulbmx12345 New user 33 Posts |
Thank you but I guess I didn't make my self clear I've been doing magic for many years and am quite good at coin magic. I guess I was just basically asking what are some of your favorite routines in the book. By the way it was the first book I got when I started magic and I've read and use some of the routines. I guess the way I worded my original post sounded like I was new sorry for the misunderstanding.
" Why, Mr. Anderson, why? Why, why do you do it? Why, why get up? Why keep fighting? Do you believe you're fighting for something, for more than your survival? Can you tell me what it is, do you even know? Is it freedom or truth, perhaps peace - could it
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Mike Wild Inner circle NY, PA, TX, MA, FL, NC 1290 Posts |
Oh. Well then, I recommend the Miser's Dream routine in MCM, as taken from the Tony Downs book. Also, you can't go wrong with Winged Siver or Flying Eagles. There are so many variations that can be played with, and so many ways to customize the routine to fit your style. There have been several enlightening threads lately, pertaining to premises and story lines for coins across routines. Some really good ideas in "Why do the coins go across" and the other threads related to that type of illusion.
Gadabout Coins is definitely on my list as well. Best, Mike |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
No problem Paul, did you like the pulse trick? or how about Goshman's Sun&Moon?
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Curtis Kam V.I.P. same as you, plus 3 and enough to make 3498 Posts |
Mike, it is by working through the book that most of these guys determined what they thought "the best" routines were. Of course, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with comparing notes along the way, so, hint: Everything by Senator Walt Rollins was ahead of its time.
Is THAT a PALMS OF STEEL 5 Banner I see? YARRRRGH! Please visit The Magic Bakery
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owen.daniel Inner circle England 1048 Posts |
AS I said in a previous post, this is what my post about Speaking Volumes with Bobo was about...
As Kurt says above, most of us took the time to look through the book, and it is this way that one can really find the stuff that is of interest to oneself. It might have taken years for some people to root out the good things from this book, and therefore, may not be that keen on sharing stuff which took such a long time for themselves to find...their own gems. Owen |
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Paulbmx12345 New user 33 Posts |
Thanks for your help. I didn't think this thread would be so controversial or stir up any hard feelings.m I'm sorry
" Why, Mr. Anderson, why? Why, why do you do it? Why, why get up? Why keep fighting? Do you believe you're fighting for something, for more than your survival? Can you tell me what it is, do you even know? Is it freedom or truth, perhaps peace - could it
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Mike Wild Inner circle NY, PA, TX, MA, FL, NC 1290 Posts |
We're a group who take our Bobo very seriously
There's no hard feelings or controversy here Paul. Well, maybe the Opie thing has some controversy to it, but I'm not in the know on that issue, so once again I remain gratefully and pleasantly ignorant. Curtis and Owen make good points however. It's tough to calculate the best of MCM. It really is a personal preference sort of thing. Best, Mike |
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Riley Special user Swansea UK 955 Posts |
Many years ago (c.1976) at Ken Brooke's Magic Place in London, Ken showed a small group (which included me..) the bluff vanish, and Stewart Judah's Half Dollar Vanish using a pencil (page 417 of my copy). Ken had added his own variations to Mr Judah's principle and the result was a sequence beautiful to watch.
Incidentally (?), Ken mentioned that the methods were in Bobo's MCM and I bought my copy on the spot, so did four other guys watching the demonstration. A simple effect? Certainly. Magical to watch? Absolutely! Do I still use them? YES. Regards Riley |
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MrBiddle Loyal user 239 Posts |
Dan Watkins also has some tips on how to study Bobo in his excellent website:
http://www.coinvanish.com Good luck.
I would, however contest that there is in REALITY very little pportunity to perform what could actually be termed "close-up" magic.
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Rob Elliott Elite user Reston VA 487 Posts |
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On 2004-05-14 20:07, WildStone wrote: Dan's version of Gadabout Coins, called Sticky Coins, is IMHO, a huge improvement over the original. Check it out at http://www.coinvanish.com. |
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