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But then it muddies the waters and depends entirely if its a social thing, or a paid gig...

And it also needs a crystal clear reason as to how this person is doing something far bigger than knowing when the phone will ring or be thinking of a song and it plays on the radio etc...


Do audiences believe The Mentalist has special unique access to the veiled world of mysticism, or do they believe the doors to expanded-conscience are open to anyone with the key?
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But then it muddies the waters and depends entirely if its a social thing, or a paid gig...

And it also needs a crystal clear reason as to how this person is doing something far bigger than knowing when the phone will ring or be thinking of a song and it plays on the radio etc...


Do audiences believe The Mentalist has special unique access to the veiled world of mysticism, or do they believe the doors to expanded-conscience are open to anyone with the key?


depends on your premise/skillset/powers are...
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I agree, but pre-show attendees must lean one direction. Our culture is rife with religious-fervor, mysticism, superstition and luck.
I posit that the average-audience is more likely to believe we are all latent-mystics than that the Mentalist is a singularity.
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Well, that's country, state and in my case, county dependant ... Uk beliefs are fairly different to the States...
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Well, that's country, state and in my case, county dependant ... Uk beliefs are fairly different to the States...


I hear it's all Fairies, Stonehenge and Celtic-knots across the pond.
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You can't move for the knots...
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Mr. Salk, hate to break it to you, but people are by and large skeptics these days and give little thought their would-be mystical powers. Again, it sounds lovely... In actual practice, there's a lot of resistance to the idea that the mentalist has "powers" (hence the prevalence of "psychological illusionists"), let alone the average person in the audience.
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There are many mysteries in the world our simple minds do not understand, but It does follow that some people are better at art and others are good with math and fewer can do both well. So who is to say that the performer doesn't have a keen aptitude to reading people, body and mind? However I do believe that those that pray on grieving people saying that they are in contact with the "other side" are committing fraud. Fuse lit...
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I'd say it's more those that enjoy art don't often enjoy maths, and vice versa... Then there's some who enjoy both and even understand how one helps the other... You just have to look into the golden ratio to see that...
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Ok, but the point is that everyone can draw pictures, some are better than others for whatever reason, so maybe everyone has some psychic ability that with some help will allow them the feel the different cards and separate them.

What do you guys think about a three way OOTW with the East coast, West coast, and middle states?
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Personally, and no offence meant, that's just painful to me... I can't see how I would wanna emotionally engage with that at all...

I want stuff that either makes me think or makes me care, hopefully both...

But, just my opinion... You need to develop what feels right for you, not a general concensus from people on a forum...

I often start with the idea that if I find something interesting, others might too...

Bucket lists are good, most know what they are and travel is one of those bucket lists... I'd go for that personally... There's an emotional hook there...
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In the USA there is quite a disagreement in the politics of these different regions. While politics is a risky topic to employ, it does touch some people deeply.
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OK, so make it more about politics and tie it in with characteristics and persona analysis... Knowing certain things about people helps reveal how they may vote etc..
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OK, so make it more about politics and tie it in with characteristics and persona analysis... Knowing certain things about people helps reveal how they may vote etc..


Terrible idea in the United States right now. Absolutely terrible.
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Make it provocative... Its good to deal with it... Deal with taboos...watch the Roger Stone doc on Netflix and it'll give you lots of ideas on influence and manipulation...
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Mr. Salk, hate to break it to you, but people are by and large skeptics these days and give little thought their would-be mystical powers. Again, it sounds lovely... In actual practice, there's a lot of resistance to the idea that the mentalist has "powers" (hence the prevalence of "psychological illusionists"), let alone the average person in the audience.


By and large, I'm not so sure? All we need to do is to look to how many so called "mediums" around the world are getting rich, to debunk this claim.
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Mr. Salk, hate to break it to you, but people are by and large skeptics these days and give little thought their would-be mystical powers. Again, it sounds lovely... In actual practice, there's a lot of resistance to the idea that the mentalist has "powers" (hence the prevalence of "psychological illusionists"), let alone the average person in the audience.


By and large, I'm not so sure? All we need to do is to look to how many so called "mediums" around the world are getting rich, to debunk this claim.


It’s by no means a large segment of the population that attends these shows. Yes, they do well, because they have a very dedicated and passionate following, but if even 1% of the general adult population (im the states at least) has attended such shows, I’d be surprised.
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SentiMental Postcards by Diamond Jim Tyler is another one.
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Diamond Jim Tyler is great. I checked out the Sentimental Postcards on Youtube and it reminded me of the Magic Safari I did way back when, but he brings it up to date and adds a super finale. Smile
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Here's another one that might be of interest:

https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......orum=218
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