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They also think themselves Vikings.
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They also think themselves Vikings.

Must be true. We need to hear them and figure out what we can do as a society to curb these Norse tendencies.
People don't just go around shooting people for fun. Although I bet if you made a video game based on that premise, it just might sell. Heck millions of teens and preteens might even sit in their bedrooms and virtually shoot each other in the head 24 hours a day for 5 to 10 years.
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"Although eco-fascism can manifest in different ways (just like any umbrella ideology), there are consistent sets of beliefs that crop up among eco-fascists. They include veganism, anti-multiculturalism, white nationalism, anti-single use plastic, anti-Semitism, and, almost always, a passionate interest in Norse mythology. Most Twitter profiles of self-defining eco-fascists are a bespoke cocktail of alt-right memes, pictures of forests and cabins, hatred towards Jews, and rants about animal rights. Between calls for a racial purity and plastic bans, most accounts have tweets or retweets honouring Thor, celebrating Tyr Day, or glorifying Sunna, the Norse Sun Goddess."


https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tec......upremacy
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If investigating the murderer's motivation could lead to saving even one person from being killed or injured in the future, I, for one, think that investigating it is a no-brainer.
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If investigating the murderer's motivation could lead to saving even one person from being killed or injured in the future, I, for one, think that investigating it is a no-brainer.

Agreed. What if the motivation is murder?
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If investigating the murderer's motivation could lead to saving even one person from being killed or injured in the future, I, for one, think that investigating it is a no-brainer.

Agreed. What if the motivation is murder?

Heads you win, tails you tie.
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Lol. I definitely agree with investigating motives, which is why I think it is a mistake to accept a mass murderer's written ideas as gospel.
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Why would he lie about why, when he has nothing to gain or lose from it?
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I am not advocating not investigating. I am saying using this as political fodder, like every time it happens for example is wrong.
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Why would he lie about why, when he has nothing to gain or lose from it?

He may not be lying. Was Ramirez lying when he said Satan told him to do it? Maybe in his mind it's TRUE.
Remember, were not discussing rational people here.
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Motivation comes from within so a mass murders motivation is already there, he just needs to find reasons to justify it in his mind.
This justification doesn’t have to come from one source; It can and often does come from bits and pieces from here and there.

Hope that makes sense.

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Curiosity ... https://www.9news.com.au/2019/03/18/14/4......ied-bail

and consequences. There's some more pervasive toxicity to consider than one madman's publicity stunt.
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You may be surprised to hear that I strongly disagree with that ruling. I think it's unenforceable, and can only be applied selectively. That's a slippery slope to censorship which ultimately doesn't help society. That said, I can certainly feel for the families of the murdered who don't want that video spread around. But this is a piece of history concerning neo-Nazi scum which should not be erased any more than the filmed remains of Dachau and Auschwitz should be.
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I think spreading the video around is just asking for trouble.


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It's certainly not something I or anyone I know would want to distribute; but on the other hand, I don't see how you can make a law against it and still have a free society.
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Can't legislate common sense.
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Beware, that according to studies, these sort of crazy shootings are often followed by a copycat shooting somewhere within a couple of weeks.
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Of course. Why? Notoriety, attention, narcissism, morbid curiosity, and of course their main motivation, desire to kill.
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