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So magicfish’s star witness turns out to be a convicted pedophile with a fetish for stuffed animals!

Will wonders never cease?
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.

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Thordarson was 17 years old and still in high school when he joined WikiLeaks in February 2010.


Does the Spy Kids make more sense now?
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Folks might recall the plot theme of the Spy Kids films (basically collecting their errant or missing relatives)
Hadn't thought of the "five eyes" as "Spy Kids" parallel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUcFnQ-Q95k
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Hey we got a nice sharp turn on the Iran story today. It went from flaming tankers and mines to stockpiles of nuclear material in just one day's news cycle.
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/1......-1366749
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-to-bre......60765015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Comp......f_Action
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This should cover the time before his extradition hearing.
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After what the US did to Libya, why would anyone get rid of their nukes???????? They are torturing Assange ... I'd bet everything I have ... The UK is knee deep in all of this...
THE MAN THE SKEPTICS REFUSE TO TEST FOR ONE MILLION DOLLARS.. The Worlds Foremost Authority on Houdini's Life after Death.....
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Yes we did it but Patrick Clawson from the World Bank called the shots.

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After what the US did to Libya, why would anyone get rid of their nukes???????? They are torturing Assange ... I'd bet everything I have ... The UK is knee deep in all of this...

Electricians sometimes get shocked.
Dog sitters get bitten.
Iron Workers fall.
Spies get detained, poisoned, tortured etc.
It's one of the reasons I didn't become a spy.
Otherwise I'd do it. No brainer.
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Yes, Snowden, Assange, and Manning all knew they could face torture from the torturers in their fight to uncover the lies and depredations of the torturers and killers.

That is part of the reason they are all heroes, a word sometimes easily thrown around.

They were braver than many, took risks, certainly risks that neither you or I are prepared to take, and have made crystal clear to the public exactly how the killers subvert our Constitution and democracy.

They will stand in history with those like Solzhenitsyn, Karen Silkwood, Lech Wałęsa, Mark Felt, Roy Medvedev, Nelson Mandela, Wei Jingsheng, Daniel Ellsberg, Vaclav Havel, and other brave souls who defied the laws of their countries so that people could better understand and counter the forces that oppress them.

I thank them for their service, and pray the torturers do not win. The world's fate depends on it.
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Yes, Snowden, Assange, and Manning all knew they could face torture from the torturers in their fight to uncover the lies and depredations of the torturers and killers.

That is part of the reason they are all heroes, a word sometimes easily thrown around.

They were braver than many, took risks, certainly risks that neither you or I are prepared to take, and have made crystal clear to the public exactly how the killers subvert our Constitution and democracy.

They will stand in history with those like Solzhenitsyn, Karen Silkwood, Lech Wałęsa, Mark Felt, Roy Medvedev, Nelson Mandela, Wei Jingsheng, Daniel Ellsberg, Vaclav Havel, and other brave souls who defied the laws of their countries so that people could better understand and counter the forces that oppress them.

I thank them for their service, and pray the torturers do not win. The world's fate depends on it.

Ah ah ah...there you go again. Refusing to renounce the evildoers and twisting it to suit your agenda of accusing your own government.
Hero? Not even close. A treacherous, treasonous, thief, who put his own colleagues lives and thousands of others at risk for his own personal gain.
Your hero. Not mine.
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...hey are torturing Assange ...
? Torturing, or tormenting? Persecuting or prosecuting?
As to whether enhanced interrogation techniques are involved in any interviews ... or medical equipment etc. as with that other journalist, time will tell.
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meanwhile Egypt's democratically elected president, quickly removed by his defense minister, has died. He didn't survive his fair trial.
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where were we... oh yes, singing "send the marines".
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The UK doesn't torture. Unless you count the food they serve.
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Yes, Snowden, Assange, and Manning all knew they could face torture from the torturers in their fight to uncover the lies and depredations of the torturers and killers.

That is part of the reason they are all heroes, a word sometimes easily thrown around.

They were braver than many, took risks, certainly risks that neither you or I are prepared to take, and have made crystal clear to the public exactly how the killers subvert our Constitution and democracy.

They will stand in history with those like Solzhenitsyn, Karen Silkwood, Lech Wałęsa, Mark Felt, Roy Medvedev, Nelson Mandela, Wei Jingsheng, Daniel Ellsberg, Vaclav Havel, and other brave souls who defied the laws of their countries so that people could better understand and counter the forces that oppress them.

I thank them for their service, and pray the torturers do not win. The world's fate depends on it.

Ah ah ah...there you go again. Refusing to renounce the evildoers and twisting it to suit your agenda of accusing your own government.
Hero? Not even close. A treacherous, treasonous, thief, who put his own colleagues lives and thousands of others at risk for his own personal gain.
Your hero. Not mine.


Your baseless accusations about what I "refuse to renounce" are really getting silly. The list above is an international one, made up of heroes who have been dissidents from many countries. If you are referring to Islamic fundamentalist terrorists, I have no idea why you would say I refuse to denounce them. Relatives of some of my students were killed in the World Trade Center murders. On the contrary, anyone who takes any serious look at that phenomenon knows that it is driven by Wahabi fundamentalists from Saudi Arabia, where most of the 9/11 attackers were from. The last time I pointed this out, you said you supported the US aid to Saudi Arabia. Have you changed your support of the bone-sawers? Have you denounced US policy towards Saudi Arabia? Have you denounced the US support of ISIS in Syria? Have you denounced the US support of the starving of millions of Yemenis? Please. Anyone who is not denouncing the alliance with Saudi Arabia is just not dealing with the reality of fundamentalist Islamic terrorism.
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I'm not referring to Islam.
I'm referring to Julian Assange.
What's silly is how naive you sound for someone who seems to pride themselves on being informed. No offense.
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The UK doesn't torture. Unless you count the food they serve.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/au......-mau-mau
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The UK doesn't torture. Unless you count the food they serve.

I find it to be the best food I've ever tried. What don't you like about it?
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On Jun 18, 2019, Mr Salk wrote:
The UK doesn't torture. Unless you count the food they serve.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/au......-mau-mau

How ridiculous.
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I didn't know it was fact-free Tuesday at the Café. I will take note in the future that on such days facts are ridiculous.
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On Jun 18, 2019, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
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On Jun 18, 2019, Mr Salk wrote:
The UK doesn't torture. Unless you count the food they serve.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/au......-mau-mau

How ridiculous.


That is indeed a nasty chapter of British imperial history. Perhaps something within the last 70 years would be more apropos to support the statement.
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