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I think the alleged victim would agree.


Do more research. You've been provided with sources within this thread.

Ditto
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If by hung out to dry you mean, proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt by a jury of his peers based on evidence, then perhaps.
But weather we hear of the allegations again isn't what is important. I think the alleged victim would agree.


As you appear to have missed the point entirely; my comment was clearly intended to impugn the veracity of these specific allegations NOT to trivialise actual rape.
As for "a jury of his peers", seriously? in America? peers such as yourself perhaps? LOL Oh, and BTW would this be the same legal system that allowed OJ to walk free? Yeah, right, I've got some faith in that !@#$%^& system.

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I must be a fool. I trust the system. Yea point to OJ. Point to those things that go wrong with the system. There are also a heck of a lot of things that go right with it.

The 4th amendment is part of that "system" along with the 6th. They work well as far as I am concerned. Easy to point to things that are wrong and whine. (Landmark seems to make a lifetime achievement of it LOL.) But right were the rubber meets the road it is not always that way.
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...As for "a jury of his peers", seriously? in America?
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peers such as yourself perhaps? LOL Oh, and BTW would this be the same legal system that allowed OJ to walk free?


Wait a second! That's several items which each merit discussion. Never mind that espionage and such are not civil/jury trial matters. Though the matter could be framed as a copyright violation involving conspiracy to break DRM. Smile To start he's an Australian, not an American citizen. So his peers would be extradited Australian nationals brought to America through years of applied political force to face unspecified charges... Okay Kafka! I can see him now facing a jury of extradited Aborigines who unsympathetically decide to convict on the grounds that he did so little to bring their plight to the larger world.

The OJ trial is an exception, with it's circus of ethnic and legal antics which left both public and media bug-eyed and irked. So many wrongs. For the entertainment world Kato Kalin starts the parade of celebrity including the Kardasins and leading to Kaytlin Jenner. Circus of the Stars. Nice proving ground for The Apprentice and West Wing - to bring us where we are today.

It's not a distraction from any discussions about rape. Or use of career advancement to bypass the social processes of mutual interest and consent. Or #MeToo where some are accusing others of enabling their careers at the cost of their bodies. Tales of the casting couch which leads us to July's release of a book which purports in include a description of attempted sexual assault by our current President.
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In the OJ case, a cop lied on oath and so he tainted all the evidence he was connected to. One cannot convict on perjury and so OJ beat the wrap. That is no disgrace to the justice system, quite the contrary. The cop, on the other hand, was a disgrace to law enforcement. I love the legal system: it is the only way to beat it. If Assange is going to win he better learn to love thy enemy.
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On Jun 22, 2019, art85y wrote:
...As for "a jury of his peers", seriously? in America?
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peers such as yourself perhaps? LOL Oh, and BTW would this be the same legal system that allowed OJ to walk free?


Wait a second! That's several items which each merit discussion. Never mind that espionage and such are not civil/jury trial matters. Though the matter could be framed as a copyright violation involving conspiracy to break DRM. Smile To start he's an Australian, not an American citizen. So his peers would be extradited Australian nationals brought to America through years of applied political force to face unspecified charges... Okay Kafka! I can see him now facing a jury of extradited Aborigines who unsympathetically decide to convict on the grounds that he did so little to bring their plight to the larger world.

The OJ trial is an exception, with it's circus of ethnic and legal antics which left both public and media bug-eyed and irked. So many wrongs. For the entertainment world Kato Kalin starts the parade of celebrity including the Kardasins and leading to Kaytlin Jenner. Circus of the Stars. Nice proving ground for The Apprentice and West Wing - to bring us where we are today.

It's not a distraction from any discussions about rape. Or use of career advancement to bypass the social processes of mutual interest and consent. Or #MeToo where some are accusing others of enabling their careers at the cost of their bodies. Tales of the casting couch which leads us to July's release of a book which purports in include a description of attempted sexual assault by our current President.

I don't think peers have to be of the same nationality. I could be wrong. Not that it matters in this case.
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It doesn't take a chessmaster to understand: the corrupt authoritarians worldwide are happy to put the people who uncover their crimes in prison.

It will take the continued international outcry and support of those who cherish freedom to release them.
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So... my choices are only to be Pro-rapist (though no court conviction -- but that... don't matter...) or...

to oppose those who cherish freedom (makin' me a freedom hater -- and therefore a corrupt authoritarian supporter)?


Hmmm.... I think we should all get stars on our bellies 'cause this Sylvester McMonkey McBean seems to know a thing or two Smile
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Ah, that wonderful game of false dichotomies and brand identification. It's snitches vs sneers, you can tell by their hats. Smile
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On Jun 22, 2019, art85y wrote:

As for "a jury of his peers", seriously? in America? peers such as yourself perhaps? LOL Oh, and BTW would this be the same legal system that allowed OJ to walk free? Yeah, right, I've got some faith in that !@#$%^& system.


The glove didn't fit. We had to acquit.
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Greenwald and Brazil, happening in real time:

https://www.france24.com/en/20190613-gre......sh-leaks
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If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.

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Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMgHtbdCUWY

Not a funny musical joke there.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/brazil-ja......4eAwZRgf
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That place has the resources and educated population to become something truly modern and wonderful. I hope that's what they choose.
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