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Hi everybody

I read the book (reread it from time to time). I am strongly interested in the above mentioned trick. The method explanation is not more than a part of para plus one picture. I would like , if possible, to get your kind assistance to understand it. To find a missing card in a memorised stay-stack deck that is spread face up, do I have to look for the missing card in both halves of the deck in the memorised deck order?

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You need to start from the two mates which are in the centre of the spread and move, both towards the left and towards the right of the spread, one card at the time, till you find a card, either to the left or to the right of the centre, that doesn't have a mate.

The missing mate is the missing card.

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If you like this routine I would highly recommend a trick called Mating Season in Hand Crafted Magic 3 by Denis Behr. This routine is an absolute killer. The part in it called Speed Mating is essentially a variation of the missing card trick, but in the Hand Crafted routine you get so much more. And if you use Mnemonica Denis shows a super fast way to get into position from memorized order.
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Thank you Mark

Sorry to insist by I need if possible more explanations.
1. When I "move" towards both left and right "one card at the time" there are a lot of moves (26 times two)? Is the deck in my hands or on the table?
2. Where is used the memorised deck feature?

Thanks again
Mihail
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Stickmondoo thank you very much for your recommendation. I will try to read it asap.

I found The missing card trick (without name and without explanation) on an older video by Juan Tamariz. I like it so much that every few weeks I watch it again and again. I was happy to see something similar in Mnemonica (the missing card) but the explanation is not enough for me.

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On Apr 15, 2019, misamagic wrote:
Thank you Mark

Sorry to insist by I need if possible more explanations.
1. When I "move" towards both left and right "one card at the time" there are a lot of moves (26 times two)? Is the deck in my hands or on the table?
2. Where is used the memorised deck feature?

Thanks again
Mihail


Mihail,

honestly I have never really performed this but I think I'd rather have the cards spread on the table, should make it easier. But It is also possible to perform it while holding it in you hands. I seem to remember Tamariz doing in this way in an old London lecture. Of course you need a good amount of practice to be able to spot one or more missing cards (he also describes the effect with tree chosen cards soon after).

As for the memorised feature, in this case there is none. You're using the mirror (or stay-stack) principle and you could do it with the cards in any stay-stack order, not necessarily the one four faros away from new deck order (i.e. the mirror order you obtain by exiting Mnemonica and going to stay stack).

Hope this clarifies.

Mark
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On Apr 14, 2019, stickmondoo wrote:
If you like this routine I would highly recommend a trick called Mating Season in Hand Crafted Magic 3 by Denis Behr. This routine is an absolute killer. The part in it called Speed Mating is essentially a variation of the missing card trick, but in the Hand Crafted routine you get so much more. And if you use Mnemonica Denis shows a super fast way to get into position from memorized order.


I have praised this routine a few times recently, even because it's the one I've been working on recently.

Mihai,
if you wish to take a look at it, I'll just tell you that you do not start it in stay-stack order, but you eventually reach it at a certain point, after performing a few incredible feats!

I start the Mating Season routine exactly as Denis Behr describes it in the first phase, then I perform Triumph, then I do the second part of Behr's routine, then I do twice the speed mating phase and then I divide the pack in two and get into a routine I saw in an Ackermann's Faro video (sorry can't remember the name now) which ends as finale in a total matching of the two halves of the deck.

The great thing about this is that I can instantly reset back to the kind of stack that is needed for the mating Season routine! Very handy when practising at home!

:-)

Mark
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Hi there mlippo. I also go your way with the Behr routine. I don’t perform his ending, but one called “A ‘staggered’ Routine” in the Nick Trost Subtle Card Creations Book volume 2 page 318 with a wrinkle from Ben Blau concerning the swindle. I believe the Ackerman effect you mention is also based on Eddie Joseph’s Staggered, but not sure? It is such a good routine eh? I thought Behrs idea to start the trick in the way he does was genius. Made me so happy to find that one.
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P.s. misamagic I have pm’d you about something,
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On Apr 15, 2019, stickmondoo wrote:
Hi there mlippo. I also go your way with the Behr routine. I don’t perform his ending, but one called “A ‘staggered’ Routine” in the Nick Trost Subtle Card Creations Book volume 2 page 318 with a wrinkle from Ben Blau concerning the swindle. I believe the Ackerman effect you mention is also based on Eddie Joseph’s Staggered, but not sure? It is such a good routine eh? I thought Behrs idea to start the trick in the way he does was genius. Made me so happy to find that one.



I'm home so I checked. It's called Marlo's Matching Routine and what I do is just a small excerpt from it, but enough to take me to that astonishing finale.

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Ah yes, they are both similar especially at the end. I particularly like phase 3 of the Nick Trost version.
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Thank you mark and thank you stickmondoo.
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Mihail
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