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PRmagic
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Any own a Mirage Wallet that can give me advice. I believe the gimmick is damaged because it goes kinda slow. if you have one you know what I mean. PM me or contact me somehow if you have any suggestions.
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Forgive me for being a bit skeptical, but don't you think you should work with it for a little while before determining that it's defective? That is, of course, assuming you actually have it, which seems kind of doubtful to me considering you just posted eight hours ago over at Genii that you didn't know if you wanted to get the Mirage or the Slim Fire Wallet. Now, it's certainly conceiveable that you could have purchased one since then, which is why I'm giving you the benfit of the doubt. Experiment with the wallet for at least a week before making any kind of conclusions on it.

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Finger replacement is 100% critical with this. I played around with it for a while and got a 90% success rate but was not happy. I sold it on and stick with the much better card in envelope by Roger Curzon. Lower tech but infinitely better and 100% reliable.
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On 2002-07-19 14:57, JimMaloney wrote:
Forgive me for being a bit skeptical, but don't you think you should work with it for a little while before determining that it's defective? That is, of course, assuming you actually have it, which seems kind of doubtful to me considering you just posted eight hours ago over at Genii that you didn't know if you wanted to get the Mirage or the Slim Fire Wallet. Now, it's certainly conceiveable that you could have purchased one since then, which is why I'm giving you the benfit of the doubt. Experiment with the wallet for at least a week before making any kind of conclusions on it.

-Jim


Where is this Genii that he posted in and is it a forum?

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On 2002-07-19 15:15, jecar wrote:
Where is this Genii that he posted in and is it a forum?

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It's the online forum for Genii Magazine: http://www.geniimagazine.com.

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actually jim maloney f.y.i....i went to the magic store during lunnch and bought the mirage wallet. but youre right though i played with it for a little while and it works ok i jus gotta get used it. Even though the gimmicked pocket ripped on the side but thank heaven for rubber cement. no but really though i reccomend this trick for anyone although the gimmick is a little delicate. I did it to a co worker and he pretty impressed.
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On 2002-07-19 15:12, Gary Alford wrote:
Finger replacement is 100% critical with this. I played around with it for a while and got a 90% success rate but was not happy. I sold it on and stick with the much better card in envelope by Roger Curzon. Lower tech but infinitely better and 100% reliable.


Can you please provide a reference for the Curzon card in envelope?

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Even though the gimmicked pocket ripped on the side but thank heaven for rubber cement.

I think I'd have taken it back if that happened on just buying it!

John, "The Curzon Card in Envelope" is available from Magick Enterprises in Sheffield, England.It's good.

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While the effect is certainly visual, I personally find it is hit and miss when it comes to operation. It does work when you get it loosened up so to speak, but as it's not fully reliable, I can't trust it will work every time, so tend not to use it. There are better alternative wallets around.
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On 2002-07-19 16:56, PRmagic wrote:
actually jim maloney f.y.i....i went to the magic store during lunnch and bought the mirage wallet. but youre right though i played with it for a little while and it works ok i jus gotta get used it. Even though the gimmicked pocket ripped on the side but thank heaven for rubber cement. no but really though i reccomend this trick for anyone although the gimmick is a little delicate. I did it to a co worker and he pretty impressed.


You barely got it at lunch and found it ripped on one side. But you seem to be ok with that, and so you used rubber cement. Kind of odd, I think 99 out of 100 people on this board would of returned the item. I think you're just fishing for information.
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Don't give up on this one due to reliability issues, it really is a case of finding the right technique. Try this...

First use a cut down card underneath the "card" - Much smoother.
Now...When the selection is in position, the clip is removed with the right hand and the left thumb holds things steady.
Then, as the right thumb takes over holding the card, both thumbs crease the wallet downwards (imagine breaking a biscuit) and straight back again.
If the left hand releases as the wallet is straightened, this leaves the pocket gaping wide open...Just release sharply and the card cannot stick.
From that position there is nothing for the card to snag onto because the pocket is wide open! You can even look right inside the pocket thanks to that cut down card in there.

Hope that description is adequate, if you can get that pocket open and release the card sharply, I can't see how you can fail. I haven't failed since I started using that technique.

I hate to think of any Mirage Wallet lying in a "Why Did I Buy This" drawer as it's an all time favorite of mine.

Ian Jones.
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Thanks for the advice Ian. It's certainly worth a shot!

Cheers.
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thanks for the tip Jones. And for all the people that think im didnt even buy a mirage wallet and just "fishing" for information then !@#$^&*!!! i dont want to say anything because that would be disrepectful to the forum and the reason i didnt take it back to the store was because the guy already gave me a nice discount(alsmost 1/2 price) and i would feel bad exchanging the product after he was being generous besides its not that bad its as good as new now. Back to Jones tip i understand about the bendind the wallet part to make a nice pocket but whats a cutdown card AND how can you replace the "card" with a cutdown card? Smile Smile
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Don't replace the card, just place one underneath the gimmick. A full card won't fit so just keep shaving the ends until it slides into the pocket. Then cut pieces from the bottom edge until it can't be seen.
Hope that make sense.

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Anyone come up with a better handling than what is published? The point where the wallet rests on the deck is not a good one and for that reason, I have only performed it away from tables in order to have a reason to rest the wallet on top of the cards even though its just for a few seconds.
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I actually prefer the "Reverse Osmosis" pouch. It works on the same principle, works a little smoother, is cheaper and predates "Mirage Wallet".
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Purchased this as a curiosity, and it *does* have the potential to fool other magicians. As with much of JBTV, however, watching the video demo will ultimately reveal the method. Decide for yourself if this is really worth $40. Personally, I suggest sticking with no-gimmick methods for non-magician (i.e., REAL) audiences.
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On 2002-10-13 10:40, Magi007 wrote:
Personally, I suggest sticking with no-gimmick methods for non-magician (i.e., REAL) audiences.

Non-gimmicked isn't necessarily better. I use a Jerry O'Connell wallet and get great results with it.
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I agree. Several killer routines are only possible with gaffed wallets. However, when working a typical close-up crowd (i.e., one that isn't distanced like a convention contest audience), it *can* be a bit artificial to remove the card yourself. In addition, the look on a spectator's face as he/she removes the card is absolutely priceless! Just an opinion...
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Hmmm, I have the exact same problem with my wallet. Luckily, I bought Black Envelope, and though it seems to be a similar principle, very different in their own way, I highly suggest that.
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