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On Apr 29, 2019, hou_dini wrote:
JoeJoe—you missed my point. I believe that the BK’s across the states grill/will grill the impossible burger on the same grills as the meat patties. This would effectively negate a vegan choice at the fast food chain. Impossible burger is just that—impossible.


Fire would most likely burn off any cross-contamination, fire takes care of everything. None-the-less, I'm sure larger BKs can use a dedicated grill, and smaller ones can can microwave the patty to avoid that problem.

If a vegan get animal fat into their system, it can make them sick (I've had that happen a couple of times). Nothing serious, not bedridden on anything ... the body just knows it doesn't belong and expels it. A body has to eat meat in order to be able to digest meat (more proof you are not naturally designed to eat meat).

I wouldn't eat an Impossible Whooper anyway, it has genetically modified ingredients. I would have loved to a few years ago, but not today. The Impossible Whopper is a food for meat-eaters to enjoy, not vegans ... it was not designed to feed vegans, but rather to give meat-eaters a better option on their menu:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/vora......5b60922a

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It may take a genius to create an Impossible burger, but it doesn’t take one to understand why the mock meat fools so many: The bar is set extremely low. As I’ve noted before, the beef in fast-food burgers represents only a fraction of the sandwich’s total weight, about 30 percent for the Whopper. Most of what you taste in a Whopper is not ground beef. It’s a combination of sweet bun, fatty mayo, ripe tomato, raw onions and that famous “grill flavor,” which a Burger King representative told me last year was natural to the flame-grilling process, not artificially added.

"Few Whopper devotees probably do this, but the next time you try one, break off a hunk of the ground beef and taste it. The meat is so overcooked and juiceless that, if not for the grill flavor, the patty wouldn’t have much to recommend it. Whatever beef flavor remains is residual, an echo of the animal fat that’s all but rendered out. It’s a grill-flavored protein disc, which the Impossible version has no problem mimicking. In fact, I’d argue the Impossible Whopper patty, all by itself, has more flavor than the meaty one."


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BK cooks on a motorized wire rack (like a pizza oven) and not on a grill like Mc'D's.

Cross contamination could occur with the tongs though as I doubt they use separate tongs at the sandwich station.



I don't get the fuss over genetic modified foods.
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From the Washington Post article that JoeJoe linked to:

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After eating more than a dozen Impossible-branded burgers in St. Louis — including Red Robin’s thick-cut version, which had none of the chin-dribbling juices you desire from a big, sloppy grilled hamburger — I’ve come to the conclusion that the producer of this meat alternative is a master illusionist. After one bite, you swear the Impossible patty tastes just like beef. After a second bite, you begin to sense the illusion behind the science. After a third, you’re ready to invest in the whole enterprise. With time, the illusion becomes its own alternative reality: The product is close enough to beef that your brain is willing to fill in the rest of the flavors, even if somewhere in the dark recesses of your cerebral cortex, you know it’s all a lie.


It's interesting that although we are in a magic forum we miss the most interesting part of the review: the burger works! How? As an illusion that it is made from real beef.

I'm definitely gonna eat one when it becomes available here.
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It's interesting that although we are in a magic forum we miss the most interesting part of the review: the burger works! How? As an illusion that it is made from real beef.


EXACTLY!! What I've been trying to tell everyone ... I learned from old radio shows that relied on "sound effects" that sometimes the illusion can be more convincing than the real thing.

If you could make vegetable-meat taste better than animal-meat why would you not want to??

Sensorly illusion ... amazing!! I have plans to make more videos ... filming cooking is different than filming magic, I'm working on it. Smile

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The problem is when illusion becomes delusion.

JoeJoe not everyone wants to subscribe to your way of life. Get over it.
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Joe joe wrote,
"If you could make vegetable-meat taste better than animal-meat why would you not want to?? "

1. Because I prefer animals.
2. There's no such thing as vegetable meat.
3. Because I love vegetables how they are.
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I love okra and I love top sirloin.

I would never try to make okra taste like top sirloin. That's stupid. If I want the flavor of top sirloin, I'll eat top sirloin.

I would never try to make top sirloin taste like okra. That's stupid. If I want the flavor of okra, I'll eat okra.

Tonight, I'll be eating chili. Tri-tip, chuck roast, ground turkey, tomatoes, tomatillos, onions, garlic, chilies, black beans, pinto beans, celery, chili powder, and so on.

No top sirloin and no okra because I love other stuff as well.

Yum²!
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I love human beings. Is it possible to get me a Long Pig Impossible Whooper?
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On Apr 29, 2019, stoneunhinged wrote:
It's interesting that although we are in a magic forum we miss the most interesting part of the review: the burger works! How? As an illusion that it is made from real beef.


As I said earlier that the "industry" knows a "secret" - they already know this:

Kentucky Fried Chicken does not taste like chicken; it tastes like "eleven herbs and spices". If you put those same eleven herbs and spices on my potato nuggets, they will taste just like Kentucky Fried Chicken.

McDonalds breads their nuggets in corn, they don't taste like KFC nuggets. And Chick-fil-a uses a heavy dose of paprika so their nuggets don't taste like McDonalds or KFC.

People are not eating "chicken-flavored nuggets". There is virtually nothing left of the chicken in them at all, flavor or texture. At least the drunks at the bar are still biting meat off a bone with their nuggets, even if they are drenched with sugar-sauce to the point they are blatantly "unclean" to eat.

If people actually wanted "chicken-flavored nuggets", all these places would have nuggets that tasted the same, they don't.

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If people actually wanted "chicken-flavored nuggets", all these places would have nuggets that tasted the same, they don't.

That, of course, is absurd.

Do all cooks make minestrone that tastes the same? Or bhindi masala? Or artichoke, asparagus, and mushroom risotto? Or salsa? Or kettle corn? Or mango chutney? Or whatever?

Of course not.
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Of course, they don’t use herbs and spices on their rotten horse meat for nothing.
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If people actually wanted "chicken-flavored nuggets", all these places would have nuggets that tasted the same, they don't.

That, of course, is absurd.

Do all cooks make minestrone that tastes the same? Or bhindi masala? Or artichoke, asparagus, and mushroom risotto? Or salsa? Or kettle corn? Or mango chutney? Or whatever?

Of course not.


That is exactly what I said, this is absurd!!

Why would you want all of your hamburgers to taste like "beef"??

You don't. Smile

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The next logical step in this thought process is "if you don't want your hamburger to taste like beef, then make it out of something other than beef".

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For our burger, which is a combination of gouda cheese, smoked maple bacon, lettuce, tomato, red onion, and our signature burger sauce, we won the best burger in Birmingham award. It is more of a ham than a beef burger, more of a bacon sarnie if you ask me.
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On Apr 30, 2019, JoeJoe wrote:
The next logical step in this thought process is "if you don't want your hamburger to taste like beef, then make it out of something other than beef".

-JoeJoe

You have a different definition of logical than the rest of the world. Also thought process means something different to you than others.
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If people actually wanted "chicken-flavored nuggets", all these places would have nuggets that tasted the same, they don't.

That, of course, is absurd.

Do all cooks make minestrone that tastes the same? Or bhindi masala? Or artichoke, asparagus, and mushroom risotto? Or salsa? Or kettle corn? Or mango chutney? Or whatever?

Of course not.

That is exactly what I said, this is absurd!!

It's not remotely what you said.

But feel free to rewrite history as you will.

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Why would you want all of your hamburgers to taste like "beef"??

You don't. Smile

And that's why we also eat turkey burgers.
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On Apr 29, 2019, JoeJoe wrote:
If people actually wanted "chicken-flavored nuggets", all these places would have nuggets that tasted the same, they don't.

That, of course, is absurd.

Do all cooks make minestrone that tastes the same? Or bhindi masala? Or artichoke, asparagus, and mushroom risotto? Or salsa? Or kettle corn? Or mango chutney? Or whatever?

Of course not.


That is exactly what I said, this is absurd!!

Why would you want all of your hamburgers to taste like "beef"??

You don't. Smile

-JoeJoe

Yes I do. That's why I don't eat chicken burgers, pork burgers, turkey burgers, salmon burgers, or veggie burgers.
I will however make an exception for moose, elk, caribou. Wonderfully nutritious, and actually helps reduce cholesterol.
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I love human beings. Is it possible to get me a Long Pig Impossible Whooper?



If corn oil is made from corn, what do you think baby oil is made of?
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I love human beings. Is it possible to get me a Long Pig Impossible Whooper?



If corn oil is made from corn, what do you think baby oil is made of?



...or Girl Scout Cookies.
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