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Https://youtu.be/y1dMEcXxbG4 Here is a review if not already posted


Very impressive that Mark can talk and translate into morse code simultaneously via blinking.
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Any word on a warranty?
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Having choice in a marketplace is a good problem to have. That we're even having this discussion is a testament to innovation and advancement. Everyone is different and has preferences unique to their wants and needs in a watch that can do what these do. I think this is a win-win for us all. I think what the market really needs is more ambitious card moves. (Kidding.)

Watch magic... It's about time. Smile


Totally agree Nathan.
I LOVE having options!!!


My wallet doesn't love having so many options... but, otherwise, yes.
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With so many versions of this effect on the market, how worried are you all about exposure? I feel like what originally made me OK with spending so much money on a prop that really only does one thing was the fact that it was a fairly exclusive prop. With three different versions now on the market, I’m hesitant to buy. Would love to hear your thoughts.
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Waterproof watch? A black face, black chrome casing model would have been a nice option to include. Would go with my midnight black Shepra sharpie.
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Do the hands of the watch move by turning the crown?


No.

If that was possible, we would have had an almost ultimate watch gizmo that could do both:-

#1. The prior predicted time set by the performer on the watch matches the spectators thought of time.

#2. The freely selected time set by the spectator on the watch is predicted by the performer. IMO this is a much more powerful effect of the two, since the spectator handles the watch and sets the time all by himself.

For now, both the 'T' Watch as well as The Watch, can only perform Test #1 mentioned above. The day one of the creators of WATCH MAGIC creates a watch that can also do Test #2, we shall have a great prop. But alas, this is not possible with the presently prevailing versions of Hybrid watch technology.

Though I was hoping that Joao Miranda would come up with a watch that could do both Tests #1 & #2. But sadly Test #2 still remains to be solved.

Smile


The Infinity V2 can do both - of course not so advanced but possible!
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On May 8, 2019, Hudson Lee wrote:
With so many versions of this effect on the market, how worried are you all about exposure? I feel like what originally made me OK with spending so much money on a prop that really only does one thing was the fact that it was a fairly exclusive prop. With three different versions now on the market, I’m hesitant to buy. Would love to hear your thoughts.


Iam with you on this Hudson Lee.
We should buy it now and wait 1-2 years.
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Semantics...

Really? If you work with a (hidden) remote every day, you know how insidious it can be. Let alone with a remote with 10 buttons. A great opportunity has been missed here. A remote with 4 clear buttons had been more than sufficient and even faster. (people who use inject with a remote will understand).


Hi.

In fact if we used 4 buttons would be MUCH more difficult than having 10. I know because we first tested with 4 and it was a complete nightmare.

One might think its a lot of buttons but trust me.. it is not.

When I designed this product I wanted the magician to instantly place any time without thinking or making calculations and hesitating by doing so.

In fact you can place ANY hour and ANY minute is less than 3 seconds with 100% accuracy without even thinking, and by simply going to grab a sharpie for example. The buttons are raised enough that you can feel them thru the pants and strong enough so that you don't accidentally press them.

The remote is very small and super easy to PALM as well.

Besides this and in the case of the Watch which was specifically designed for the solo performer, the input source is never seen which makes the effect very hard to track even for the most suspicious spectator.
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I really think all is about your routining... I admit that I got (2) Perfect Time, the TW and now also Joao‘s watch. While I can imagine using the TW still in close-up settings, Joao’s watch will become my piece I use in my stage routine... and the remote will be not in my pocket Smile Jan
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I really think all is about your routining... I admit that I got (2) Perfect Time, the TW and now also Joao‘s watch. While I can imagine using the TW still in close-up settings, Joao’s watch will become my piece I use in my stage routine... and the remote will be not in my pocket Smile Jan



As usual, Jan hits the nail on the head here. I have the T watch as well and for informal settings, or perhaps still my professional strolling, the T watch will still be my go to. The feedback though that this watch gives will make it much more reliable for stage use, which is what I purchased it for. 2 very different products that both have merit.
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I really think all is about your routining... I admit that I got (2) Perfect Time, the TW and now also Joao‘s watch. While I can imagine using the TW still in close-up settings, Joao’s watch will become my piece I use in my stage routine... and the remote will be not in my pocket Smile Jan

As usual, Jan hits the nail on the head here. I have the T watch as well and for informal settings, or perhaps still my professional strolling, the T watch will still be my go to. The feedback though that this watch gives will make it much more reliable for stage use, which is what I purchased it for. 2 very different products that both have merit.


I can live with that Smile
As a wrote before in this thread: "Personally I would like to say that in the end it will be a matter of preference. Claiming that one watch is so much better than the other is just childish and not right. "
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Hey Joao, you are not using BT for the communication. Correct? In that case did you develop your own?
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I really think all is about your routining... I admit that I got (2) Perfect Time, the TW and now also Joao‘s watch. While I can imagine using the TW still in close-up settings, Joao’s watch will become my piece I use in my stage routine... and the remote will be not in my pocket Smile Jan

As usual, Jan hits the nail on the head here. I have the T watch as well and for informal settings, or perhaps still my professional strolling, the T watch will still be my go to. The feedback though that this watch gives will make it much more reliable for stage use, which is what I purchased it for. 2 very different products that both have merit.


I can live with that Smile
As a wrote before in this thread: "Personally I would like to say that in the end it will be a matter of preference. Claiming that one watch is so much better than the other is just childish and not right. "


Now I could be wrong but It looks to me that João has exploited the inherent shortcomings of previous iterations and produced his own ‘workable in the real world’ version.
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And there’s already The Watch being sold on here!!!

Is this a Watch apocalypse???

This is crazy!
I can’t keep up. My head hurts.

https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......forum=76
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And there’s already The Watch being sold on here!!!

Is this a Watch apocalypse???

This is crazy!
I can’t keep up. My head hurts.

https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......forum=76

This is not a second hand sell. He is an authorized dealer
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And there’s already The Watch being sold on here!!!

Is this a Watch apocalypse???

This is crazy!
I can’t keep up. My head hurts.

https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......forum=76

This is not a second hand sell. He is an authorized dealer


Is he permitted to sell below retail price?
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On May 8, 2019, Justin Lewis wrote:
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On May 8, 2019, mikenewman wrote:
And there’s already The Watch being sold on here!!!

Is this a Watch apocalypse???

This is crazy!
I can’t keep up. My head hurts.

https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......forum=76

This is not a second hand sell. He is an authorized dealer


No idea 💡

Is he permitted to sell below retail price?
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So, I guess the story of needing cash is not true?!

It's not really fair to the magic shops if he sells them here...
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Do the hands of the watch move by turning the crown?


No.

If that was possible, we would have had an almost ultimate watch gizmo that could do both:-

#1. The prior predicted time set by the performer on the watch matches the spectators thought of time.

#2. The freely selected time set by the spectator on the watch is predicted by the performer. IMO this is a much more powerful effect of the two, since the spectator handles the watch and sets the time all by himself.

For now, both the 'T' Watch as well as The Watch, can only perform Test #1 mentioned above. The day one of the creators of WATCH MAGIC creates a watch that can also do Test #2, we shall have a great prop. But alas, this is not possible with the presently prevailing versions of Hybrid watch technology.

Though I was hoping that Joao Miranda would come up with a watch that could do both Tests #1 & #2. But sadly Test #2 still remains to be solved.


The Infinity V2 can do both - of course not so advanced but possible!


YES, the Infinity watch can do both.

With the Infinity, one can allow the spectator to freely handle the watch, pull out the crown, check the movements of the hands by turning the crown and then, after the spectator has been satisfied that the Infinity is nothing but one normal watch, the performer then proceeds with his act.

OK, for the first time I will be sharing MY way of performing the effect using the Infinity:-

1. The spectator is now asked to place the watch face down on his palm and set an unknown time that neither the performer nor the spectator knows. After setting the time the spectator is asked to push the crown in.

2. The watch is then picked up by the performer and is hung by its strap on a stand facing the performer. Obviously at this stage the performer now knows the unknown time set on the watch.

3. Now, while the performer telepathically tries to send the spectator the time set on the watch, the spectator is asked to guess the time he set on the watch. The spectator takes a guess.

4. The spectator is then asked to come and pick-up the watch from the stand and show it to all (at this stage, the performer is nowhere near the watch). And Waala, the spectator has guessed the time correctly. The spectator is the HERO of the day! Smile

At this stage, if need be, the spectator can once again play with the Infinity watch to his hearts content and nobody will be any wiser.

Hope the above makes sense.

And with that, do we see the INFINITY sales getting a big boost Smile NO Smile OK never mind. Smile

Enjoy! Smile

Back on topic please.

Smile
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On May 8, 2019, Magic KL wrote:
So, I guess the story of needing cash is not true?!

It's not really fair to the magic shops if he sells them here...

Didn’t see that. Not sure. I don’t understand that part, perhaps this is something he bought himself this time.
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