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"Imagination is more important than knowledge."
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Utter nonsense obviously.
It is our education system's failure to correct grammar, punctuation, and spelling in all subjects, that have partially led to the downgrade of the literacy of our society.
Spelling, grammar, and punctuation is as important in geometry, physics, biology etc. As it is in an English class.
Communication is the basis of our learning from those who came before us. It must be accurate.
When taking measurements, a millimeter off doesn't seem important, but over a hundred meters, the builder has strayed far off his original layout.
Same with English. It must be cherished, protected, mastered, enjoyed, loved.
We are its caretakers for future generations.
It is our duty, and a huge, important responsibility.
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I think it depends on the purpose. If the purpose is to impart technical information then it better be accurate and rational. If the purpose is to appeal to the imagination then it better be utter nonsense.
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It's all about not making people feel bad these days...
I still recall the day I met Beaker from the Muppets. He said to me "Meep, meep, mee mee mee Meep!", and that has made all the difference.
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On May 8, 2019, Mike Gainor wrote:
It's all about not making people feel bad these days...

Correct. And that is a race to the bottom.
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I see nothing wrong with it in the right setting when you know the person you are correcting. Or maybe in an article that is speaking in general.

Still, I thought the article had some truth to it. Those who correct others just to belittle them, or to say hey look I’m smarter than you, are indeed jerks in my opinion.


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On May 8, 2019, TomBoleware wrote:
I see nothing wrong with it in the right setting when you know the person you are correcting. Or maybe in an article that is speaking in general.

Still, I thought the article had some truth to it. Those who correct others just to belittle them, or to say hey look I’m smarter than you, are indeed jerks in my opinion.


Tom

That is completely different. You are correct. Jerks are gonna be jerks however they can.
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I wouldn’t ever correct anybody, but when I’m sitting next to people using the word “like” three times in every sentence, I am SOOOOO tempted to bet them $10 they couldn’t speak for two minutes without using “like”.
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Some of us who do magic are nice people. Some of us who do magic are nasty people.
Some who fix cars are nice and helpful, some who fix cars are mean and miserable.
Some who correct others are nice and friendly with honourable intentions. Some who correct people are obnoxious jerks.
No study required.
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I strongly encourage young people to use proper punctuation at all times, whether leaving a note or when texting- it can be the difference between life or death.

Example 1.

My son left this note:
"Mom gone to store be back soon". Notice the omission of a simple comma.
Now, in an emergency scenario like the power plant exploding, in my attempt to gather my family and head north, I would have no clue who was at the store based on this simple note.
If the note read, "Mom, gone to store. Be back soon." I know that the boy is at the store. If it read, "Mom gone to store, be back soon." Then I know that his mom is at the store. Granted they are not well formed written sentences, but the comma is paramount and allows me to formulate my apocalyptic survival plan.

Example 2.

A vertical maintenance ladder at the plant where I work had this sign:

"Do not use tie off points due for inspection"

Now, if it read, "Do not use. Tie off points due for inspection", my men know they cannot use the ladder and can remain compliant with safety.

If it read, "Do not use tie off points. Due for inspection", then the men know that they are not prohibited from using the ladder, but mustn't use the tie off points for fall protection at the top.

In the nuclear industry, safety compliance means the difference between life or death, or employment or unemployment, and consequently, marriage or divorce.

So we can ridicule those who seem like nitpickers all we want. But those who can speak, write, address a crowd, communicate with precision, will always rise to the top in every field of endeavour.
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I love cooking, my wife, and my dogs.

Comes out rather different without the commas.
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It’s tough at the top. We typically rely on skilled editors (or technical writers) to make our thoughts understood.
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Yes, it is funny how words get maltreated over time “isn’t it”?
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But those who can speak, write, address a crowd, communicate with precision, will always rise to the top in every field of endeavour.


Simply to be mildly antagonistic - this is obviously not true. At least not in the US. Many people who are not remotely eloquent are in top positions of power, and many who are eloquent and precise are bottom rung employees.
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On May 9, 2019, WitchDocChris wrote:
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But those who can speak, write, address a crowd, communicate with precision, will always rise to the top in every field of endeavour.


Simply to be mildly antagonistic - this is obviously not true. At least not in the US. Many people who are not remotely eloquent are in top positions of power, and many who are eloquent and precise are bottom rung employees.

You are missing the point. I didn't say every one with good English skills will succeed and those who don't , won't.
And I sincerely hope you arent referring to politicians who rely on a popular vote.
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