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On May 28, 2019, tommy wrote:
... post-consumer world?
Still be consumers - just not in a free market. Funny how some folks talk about liberty, rights and transparency while adopting language and practices of places which come up with phrases such as "homeland security", "deep state" and "political correctness". The obvious syllogism would also be called an "unwise association" Smile

EZ-Pass or privilege check? Take your pick of euphemisms.
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Millennials are sustainers as opposed to consumers. The Green party will soon be coming to a town near you. Little green men - have you seen one?
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In the near-future fleets of autonomous-vehicles will cluster and create gridlock to save fuel and evade parking fees.
Sending your Tesla around the block while you dine is the frugal option.
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As soon as we get past the moral and legal dilemmas involved with the self driving cars you are not too far from right.

Tesla has some INCREDIBLE tech right now that is the wave of the future. Those cars in every way are incredible and just cool. But the moral dilemma of telling the car who to kill or the legal dilemma of who gets sued when something goes wrong are sticky wickets that need to get dealt with.
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Will SiriTaxis be programmed to yield to all cars at an intersection except for AlexaTaxis?
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Will folks, 'in the near future', even travel so much(!), as today?
With internet shopping, film, music,...3D sports,..'safety',..
I think about the 'time', involved with travel(!..!).

I believe 'time',..minutes, hours, days;
will become the 'miles', of the future.

'Instant Gratification'.
"Going",..will be GONE!

,,...i admitt,
it's early in the morning. 🙃
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Just wait, it may be 100 years or more from now, but sooner or later the robots will decide they are better off without humans. Cue James Cameron.
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There will always be miles..there isn't enough labor at-home to function a society.
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Jonathan Townsend
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We already have expressions like "worth the time to" in common use. A fair amount of personal economics runs on attention and brand identification. That's what advertisers buy on TV. Same for clickbait online. That's also why we react to finding Dunkin Donuts, Baskin Robins and Taco Bell all under one roof in the mall. Coke or Pepsi?

We could also include indoctrination and get an even higher percentage of personal spending driven by brand lifestyle demands. Family Guy made the joke about wearing black jeans to a Rush concert. White socks with sneakers (athletic shoes) and ... that takes time to learn and resources to trade for the costumes and props.

@Salk, "affordable" labor?
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In the sixties, we were indoctrinated into thinking nothing is real but the good news was it stopped us complaining about having nothing.
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? We learned that about sixty years earlier it was discovered (in plain English):
1) Atoms have parts. They can be broken, sometimes split into other elements and sometimes combined into other elements.
2) There is no way to know if a set of rules is both complete and correct.
3) There is no way to know everything about any thing at the same time.
So we're not going to generate any absolute knowledge, completely know everything there is to know, or have a language with which to perfectly communicate such knowledge.
Plato vs Gorgias again - looks like what we'd wish were true and would be useful if true remains something we impute or project by means of "faith" onto our models of the world.

The appeal of mysticism in the face of such knowledge is obvious. You can see why folks prefer fiction to practical engineering. Enjoy that epiphany while you're exploring the aporia. Smile

This generation seems to be wallowing in "cycle of abuse" and "institutional violence".
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On May 31, 2019, Dannydoyle wrote:
Tesla has some INCREDIBLE tech right now that is the wave of the future. Those cars in every way are incredible and just cool. But the moral dilemma of telling the car who to kill or the legal dilemma of who gets sued when something goes wrong are sticky wickets that need to get dealt with.


There are truly horrible risks with letting machines drive cars. Two of the obvious problems are misinformed maps and decisions made "in your best interest". The latter is pretty much the premise of the show "Doctor Who" where the blue box takes the main character to where he needs to be rather than simply where or when he directs.
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Cough up some dough: bread and honey, money bunny.
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Probably,..DEFINATELY(!) un-related..
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Jonathan, you've never been better! 👍
(Translating Jonathan, to your seven year old german grand-child,...🤔
,..,what a fight!)

I just listened to the Joshua/Ruiz fight,.on the radio(!),
couldn't believe what my ears saw(!..!),
...then I read this Thread.
What a pleasure(!).

Who needs the wine,
on days like today!

Smiles,
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Cough up some dough: bread and honey, money bunny.


Is that a line from Baltimore Blues? https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/......altimore
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On Jun 3, 2019, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
There are truly horrible risks with letting machines drive cars. Two of the obvious problems are misinformed maps and decisions made "in your best interest". The latter is pretty much the premise of the show "Doctor Who" where the blue box takes the main character to where he needs to be rather than simply where or when he directs.


Every commuter knows a significant percentage of cars are driven by distracted-drivers glancing at their phones.
Add the march towards legalization of marijuana in multiple states, and I'll bet on the safety of fleets of robots any day.
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Surprisingly:

"In the first year after a medical marijuana law comes into effect, traffic fatalities decrease between 8 percent and 11 percent, according to research published in 2013 in The Journal of Law & Economics: “The impact of legalization on traffic fatalities involving alcohol is larger and estimated with more precision than its impact on traffic fatalities that do not involve alcohol. Legalization is also associated with sharp decreases in the price of marijuana and alcohol consumption, which suggests that marijuana and alcohol are substitutes.”

In their Journal of Policy Analysis and Management paper, Anderson and Rees describe the relative dangers of driving while intoxicated or stoned: “While driving under the influence of marijuana is associated with a twofold increase in the risk of being involved in a collision, driving with a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) of 0.08 or greater is associated with a 4- to 27-fold increase in this same risk.” The active ingredient in marijuana, tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), impairs driving ability, but users tend to overcompensate and drive slower, whereas alcohol consumers tend to drive faster and take more risks, they write.

Huber and his colleagues at Colby College also chart a fall in DUIs in states with MML laws."

https://journalistsresource.org/studies/......esearch/
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I know in some countries you are not allowed to drive 1 day of the week depending upon the last number of your license plate.
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Surprisingly:

"In the first year after a medical marijuana law comes into effect, traffic fatalities decrease between 8 percent and 11 percent, according to research published in 2013 in The Journal of Law & Economics: “The impact of legalization on traffic fatalities involving alcohol is larger and estimated with more precision than its impact on traffic fatalities that do not involve alcohol. Legalization is also associated with sharp decreases in the price of marijuana and alcohol consumption, which suggests that marijuana and alcohol are substitutes.”

In their Journal of Policy Analysis and Management paper, Anderson and Rees describe the relative dangers of driving while intoxicated or stoned: “While driving under the influence of marijuana is associated with a twofold increase in the risk of being involved in a collision, driving with a blood alcohol concentration (BAC) of 0.08 or greater is associated with a 4- to 27-fold increase in this same risk.” The active ingredient in marijuana, tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), impairs driving ability, but users tend to overcompensate and drive slower, whereas alcohol consumers tend to drive faster and take more risks, they write.


So...stoners get in more accidents but fewer of them are fatal because they are driving so *** slow.
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So they get pulled over for driving too slowly... okay. Obviously lower social costs on an accident basis but its still driving while ability impaired.
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