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I have just watched the trailer for this effect https://www.tadaa.co.uk/ourshop/prod_672......hip.html and I was wondering if anyone has this effect yet and could provide a review of the product.

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Volition Blue Chip is a close up master-piece and it fits in just one pocket.

'Taking Joel Dickinson's Volition to a new level.' - Dean Williamson, Mentalist.

Inside a closed bag sit three poker chips, a participant attempts to decipher the colour of the poker chips inside. Once the chips are removed your participant and spectators are astonished they are correct.

The magician then explains to the participant that each poker chip has a location and the participant now decides which poker chip will go where. Astoundingly your participants actions where predicted ahead of time on the actual poker chips.

To top it off, the poker chips contains a hidden prediction which brings Volition Blue Chip full circle Proving everybody can be maniuplated, to the extreme.

No equivocation and no unusual procedures!

Extremely easy to perform with a high impact!

Volition Blue Chip can pack a punch in under a minute or perform a hard hitting five minute routine guaranteed to floor your audience.
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Sounds good man, love playing with mentalism. So will look into this Smile
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As a big fan of the original routine (seriously...big fan), I’m afraid this feels like gilding the lily a bit.

Poker chips from a “casino” that are printed with Right Hand, Left Hand, and Pocket?!? You’re joking...

Hard pass from me. But, I wish Joel and everyone who picks this up the best of luck with the release. Prove me wrong.
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The original routine just uses business cards, so it doesn't appear "magicky," but this new release does.

That's fine for many performers and situations, but I feel the strength of the original routine lies in the ordinary nature of the cards. They don't look like props, but the chips do. And why the special little bag?

So yes, some "gilding" going on here. The original routine is fantastic -- and it fits in your everyday wallet.
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The original routine just uses business cards, so it doesn't appear "magicky," but this new release does.

That's fine for many performers and situations, but I feel the strength of the original routine lies in the ordinary nature of the cards. They don't look like props, but the chips do. And why the special little bag?

So yes, some "gilding" going on here. The original routine is fantastic -- and it fits in your everyday wallet.


Totally agree with this.
Especially agree with being able to carry in your wallet.
Personally, I see no need for this product. It even contradicts some of the advantages stated in the original Volition (such as using common business cards, etc.)

To be honest, when I first saw this I got it confused with Joel's other effect "Voyager" and thought that that might be a cool idea...to use a generic token coin such as a chip rather than a coin from a particular country. It could make it more "universal".
So I was surprised and a bit disappointed to realize it was a new version of Volition. But to each their own.
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Hi all,

I thought I'd just chime in and as always I respect your opinions.

There is no lilly being gilded, Volition Blue Chip is a COMPLETELY different routine to my original Volition.
Not only is the routine different but so is the handling. Within Volition Blue Chip a participant identifies the colour of the chips and it builds from there...

Volition Blue Chip and Volition are both routines that I actually perform.
My material is always strong because I have a reputation to protect in the real working world of magic.

Jerdunn, you mentioned why a bag. Well, the bag is a solid black bag and the participant attempts to fathom the colour of the poker chips so it beats wrapping them in clingfilm, surely Smile

Best wishes all,

Joel
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On Jul 19, 2019, jerdunn wrote:
The original routine just uses business cards, so it doesn't appear "magicky," but this new release does.

That's fine for many performers and situations, but I feel the strength of the original routine lies in the ordinary nature of the cards. They don't look like props, but the chips do. And why the special little bag?

So yes, some "gilding" going on here. The original routine is fantastic -- and it fits in your everyday wallet.


Have to agree normal business cards

Instant download $9.99

Great effects using Normal Business Cards

But hey if we can sell the same thing for $39.99
with Poker Chips that no one carries around

Why not re invent the effect that simply did not needed a remix
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Volition Blue Chip is a COMPLETELY different routine to my original Volition.
Not only is the routine different but so is the handling. Within Volition Blue Chip a participant identifies the colour of the chips and it builds from there...



Joel


Then perhaps giving this a more different name would have avoided some confusion.

Is it improper to say "more different"?
How about different-er? Or maybe I should have gone with mo' different?
Well, I think you get my drift. Smile
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Sometimes you can’t win. I’d have been slated for trying to deceive magicians somewhere or somehow.

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On Jul 19, 2019, JoelDickinson wrote:

Volition Blue Chip is a COMPLETELY different routine to my original Volition.
Not only is the routine different but so is the handling. Within Volition Blue Chip a participant identifies the colour of the chips and it builds from there...



Joel


Then perhaps giving this a more different name would have avoided some confusion.

Is it improper to say "more different"?
How about different-er? Or maybe I should have gone with mo' different?
Well, I think you get my drift. Smile
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If one decided to bite on this new version, could one figure out the more "innocent" previous effect and use that as well or are they completely different in every way?
Thanks.

Dave
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I think there is merit in both and each lends itself to a totally different kind of performance. What I love about bluechip is, there is a real sense of impossibility with the permanent nature of the prediction. There is no way for example, those chips could be switched or changed because they're uniquely made that way. Equally, in a performance about cheating at poker, along side a poker demonstration, 10 card poker deal or anything else, I think it has its unique place. Equally, it is a testament to Joel that people feel as though the first incarnation of this was so good, it could not be improved. I love the organic nature of the original but I also love the routine possibilities with bluechip. I think both are fantastic and I look forward to routining bluechip in my close up performances! Smile
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I saw $45 for a couple of poker chips and split! Prices are getting crazy but they (the magic company producers) get away with it because people will buy up anything to have the latest tricks.. They will keep raising prices until finally everyone has had enough-i'm already there.
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With the greatest of respect you get a lot more than just a couple of poker chips.

You really have no idea what you get.

Best wishes,

Joel

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I saw $45 for a couple of poker chips and split! Prices are getting crazy but they (the magic company producers) get away with it because people will buy up anything to have the latest tricks.. They will keep raising prices until finally everyone has had enough-i'm already there.
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Ok, fair enough. I just feel like the magic company's have been pushing it with the prices and I assumed this fell into the trap. my apology's

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With the greatest of respect you get a lot more than just a couple of poker chips.

You really have no idea what you get.

Best wishes,

Joel

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I saw $45 for a couple of poker chips and split! Prices are getting crazy but they (the magic company producers) get away with it because people will buy up anything to have the latest tricks.. They will keep raising prices until finally everyone has had enough-i'm already there.
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People want miracles for pocket money... Madness...
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On Jul 19, 2019, jerdunn wrote:
The original routine just uses business cards, so it doesn't appear "magicky," but this new release does.

That's fine for many performers and situations, but I feel the strength of the original routine lies in the ordinary nature of the cards. They don't look like props, but the chips do. And why the special little bag?

So yes, some "gilding" going on here. The original routine is fantastic -- and it fits in your everyday wallet.


Have to agree normal business cards

Instant download $9.99

Great effects using Normal Business Cards

But hey if we can sell the same thing for $39.99
with Poker Chips that no one carries around

Why not re invent the effect that simply did not needed a remix


I honestly think some here just like to jump on the bandwagon when the opportunity presents itself to disparage a product etc.

Joel's a good guy I hardly think he's out to rip anyone off. I will be picking this up, I like poker chips.

I've also been a fan of volition.
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I saw $45 for a couple of poker chips and split! Prices are getting crazy but they (the magic company producers) get away with it because people will buy up anything to have the latest tricks.. They will keep raising prices until finally everyone has had enough-i'm already there.


I hope the creators keep offering cool stuff. I'll pay for what I like and find interesting. I won't pay for what I don't like.

We all make choices. Both the producers and the buyers.

Life continues.

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If one decided to bite on this new version, could one figure out the more "innocent" previous effect and use that as well or are they completely different in every way?
Thanks.

Dave


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I might have gotten lost in the shuffle. I think this looks great and I definitely could see a use for both blue Chip and the highly regarded original (v2). Would blue Chip alone give me what I need to prepare a more "organic" business card-based effect (v2) in addition to the provided necessaries?

Also, any US supplier yet?

Thanks!

Dave
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I don’t have the original
But I do like the look of this and will be ordering
As I work with poker chips a lot and will fit right in
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