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Why would a pilot drink before takeoff? Any insight into that?
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I haven't been on a plane flight in quite a while, but in years past when I flew frequently, it was a common occurrence. Don't know why anyone would think it was OK.
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They don't think of it as dangerous. They do it SO many times without problems and they don't think of the job as hazardous.
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Dutch courage

strength or confidence gained from drinking alcohol.

Drinking alcohol takes one away from reality and so into a world of illusion: distortions of the truth can be created by distance. The reality of flying is that it is dangerous.
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Why would a pilot drink before takeoff? Any insight into that?


Because you need to use both hands during the takeoff. Ba-dum dum.

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Actually, the FAA has VERY strong regulations regarding drinking and flying. Commercial pilots are supposed to be something like 48 hours away from the last drink they had. I can't speak for private pilots, but I think it is an amazingly stupid thing to do. Most pilots who do drink, probably drink socially, and often enough that they don't give it a second thought. As long as nothing goes wrong, they are probably correct and in the clear. Let a small mishap occur and the clear thinking of the pilot can be the difference between life and death. Not just his own. Where did the plane come down? and on who and on what?
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The limit for pilots in the UK is 20mg of alcohol for every 100ml of blood.
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Why would a pilot drink before takeoff? Any insight into that?

Stupidity.

It covers a multitude of sins.
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What makes it even more frightening in the latest instance involving United is that both pilots conducting that flight not only broke the pre-flight time limit for abstinence but also exceeded the legally allowed amount of alcohol.

What's next, a designated pilot?
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If stupidity is the lake of reason, it is a mystery how stupidity can be the reason.
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Why would a pilot drink before takeoff? Any insight into that?

Normalization of deviance.

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My grandfather was a test pilot for 38 years with the FAA. He went on flights testing new equipment like Collision Avoidance systems, lightening strikes and many other dangerous
testing. After flights like these, they would land, turn in results and it was dinner and drink time AFTER flying. With the FAA, there was no warning if you showed up intoxicated
you were suspended, then fired and tried. This type of behavior was a Zero tolerance with the FAA and was criminal. I think it should be the same way today with in the industry
outside the FAA. But that is just my 2 cents.

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The aviator Howard Hughes did not drink alcohol but I do not know if his Mormons could fly.
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Hmmm..
well,
Air-travel, still is,
..and has ALWAYS been,
the safest form of transportation.

From the perspective, of 'the masses':
Air Pilots are the "most trusted",
amongst 'Professionals'.

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I disagree that air travel has ALWAYS been the safest form of transportation. During the years when plane crashes were not uncommon (not that long ago), the measure never used to demonstrate the safety of air travel was the amount of time spent in that mode of transportation versus time spent using other types such as automobiles, ships, trains etc. which would give the statistics a different perspective. I also don't believe pilots are any longer among the "most trusted" among professionals. The complexity of the aircraft, the automation, and the safety systems in place has diminished both their roles, qualifications and salary resulting in not always attracting the best and the brightest.
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It's a clear case where government de-regulation has been a failure. Not saying that de-regulation is always bad, but in this case, definitely.
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