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In situations where wearing a jacket isn’t optimal or just doesn’t fit in with the ambience (too formal?) or weather, what other options might be available for concealing final loads at the ready, easily accessible but indetectable?

Servantes spring to mind. These would be great for formal stage or parlor shows. But what about other, less formal situations, where a servante is unavailable?

Slacks with roomy pockets also come to mind. But what if you’re wearing snug-fitting jeans, with inadequate pocket space?

A vest could be an option. In casual situations, vests can be paired with t-shirts and jeans. But most vests also seem to have thin and shallow pockets. Winter vests (those outerwear, down-filled quilted or ridged things) often have more spacious and roomy front pockets.

But what if it’s not wintertime? Formal and waitstaff vests tend to have less roomy front pockets.

Does anyone know of commercially available (and inexpensive) vests with spacious front pockets that could accommodate typical C&B final loads?

Or other viable options?
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If yoy carry the cups in a bag the loads can ride with them or outside in hidden pockets.
Just a thought.

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I found an ideal leather vest om shopgoodwill.com for $28 including shipping.

Label says "A Masterpeice of Via Cortesa" size 58 for a nice loose fit.

Brown suede with zipper and pockets like acargo jacket. Stylish, yet functional.

Large zippered pockets on both sides - expandable to fit a cup. Another smaller pocket on top of each, plus matching smalls on each breast with flaps.
Inside each side has a very large pocket, one zippered, the other buttoned as for a passport or notebook.

The left front outside also has a vertical zipper pocket large enough for CC if desired. Smile - or gaffed to reach though to the left belt for a very large load.

The sides reach pant pocket height so loads under the vest edge are possible too. I carry an entire show including a small chop cup.

I haven't considered a complete combo set, but it could fit in the last mentioned pocket with Loads here and there.

If interested I can shoot some photos - write eversway.com. Mine not for sale but you might find another.
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There is a wealth of information in this thread -- https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......&start=0
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Are you considering busker's pouches?
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Thanks for all the tips. Much to think about, and experiment with.
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There is always Tommy Wonder’s solution.

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Brian Watson’s routine is worth your consideration. I’ve been performing it (with a few small changes) for awhile, and it never fails to garner a strong response.

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Just to offer a different solution - a large, surprising final load is not a requirement for a C&B routine - just popular and possibly traditional now.
You can segue into a different type of effect such as changing the balls to coins one at a time, or butterflies that flutter away.
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On Aug 9, 2019, yin_howe wrote:
Are you considering busker's pouches?


This is a good question. Busker's pouches can be difficult to justify. When I was working the Renaissance Festival circuit, they made perfect sense. Mine were set up similar to the ones Bob Sheets used. But they weren't like the ones Cellini used. They were two separate pouches.

However, when I work in my "normal" attire, I don't need pouches to do my cup routine. Although I wear a jacket, I don't actually need it.

In one of Michael Ammar's lectures, he mentioned that he had worked for YEARS to develop a routine for the C&B that could be done with sleeves rolled up, no jacket, etc. He went through all the different ideas he tried. Then he said, "In the end, it really didn't matter."
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On Aug 10, 2019, funsway wrote:
Just to offer a different solution - a large, surprising final load is not a requirement for a C&B routine - just popular and possibly traditional now.
You can segue into a different type of effect such as changing the balls to coins one at a time, or butterflies that flutter away.


Remember this -- whatever you produce at the end of your cups and balls routine is, by definition, a final load.
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On Aug 10, 2019, Bill Palmer wrote:
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On Aug 10, 2019, funsway wrote:
Just to offer a different solution - a large, surprising final load is not a requirement for a C&B routine - just popular and possibly traditional now.
You can segue into a different type of effect such as changing the balls to coins one at a time, or butterflies that flutter away.


Remember this -- whatever you produce at the end of your cups and balls routine is, by definition, a final load.



Even if it is to show all the cups empty and the balls gone? Joking. I should have expanded "large, surprising load" to mean
a final object either larger than, or very different from the balls used in the main routine. Not necessary if one segues into another routine,
but certainly, there should be some way for the audience to understand the C&B routine is over ( a final, load or not)
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These have appeared elsewhere on this forum.
But they answer a few questions.

These two routines address a routine without a big finish and no extra gims.
The other is intended for no fuss walk around.


Just a simple routine

https://youtu.be/D4q9zTNrbg8


A birthday suit routine
When I worked at a coffee shop the cups were on the table.
The routine resets itself.


https://youtu.be/1T4xbc-FOx0
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As usual, very good routines and lots of ideas Al Schneider. Thanks
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Al, I did not see that big finish coming in your second vid at all. That really was a surprise! John
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