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TuneHV Inner circle New York 2067 Posts 
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Definitely going to get this- I already have a few routines of mine that would benefit from it.
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goatears Veteran user 400 Posts
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On Sep 4, 2019, jimgerrish wrote: Jim, with all due respect, I'm sure your envelope works great as a switching envelope. Obviously, the idea of a switching envelope isn't new, mentalists and spiritualists have been using these for hundreds of years. There are many that lock as well. I have used several in my own work, and I have never seen a better envelope, for my purposes, than Black Door. I'd love to see yours at some point. I want to be clear, Black Door is about as close to "spectator proof" as I have ever seen. I'd even go as far as to say that it is basically magician proof. I was handed the envelope, told what it was, and I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to open the secret compartment. Once I learned the secret method to get in, it was super easy. It was like learning the passcode. Black Door can go through quite a lot of inspection without anything being noticed, more than any envelope I am aware of that doesn't get destroyed with each use. |
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Animated Puppets Loyal user Lost on a Green Screen 285 Posts
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I'm interested, but will wait until the extra envelopes are available.
Perhaps an early package deal of product and extra envelopes would increase sales? I would hate to buy this and have the envelopes discontinued...
I still recall the day I met Beaker from the Muppets. He said to me "Meep, meep, mee mee mee Meep!", and that has made all the difference.
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goatears Veteran user 400 Posts
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On Sep 4, 2019, Animated Puppets wrote: Yeah, I understand. The routine that I'm looking to do with this requires 9 envelopes. After performing a bit with Black Door I really think that they are the way to go. |
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goatears Veteran user 400 Posts
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Black Door, sold out at Magic LIVE and sold out online in 24 hours.
Penguin put aside a small supply to sell at Penguin MAXX East 2019. So, if you didn't get a chance to purchase them online yet the fastest way to get ahold of them would be to attend MAXX while Penguin awaits another shipment. Here are the details on MAXX: MAXX EAST 2019 September 13-14, 2019 Hilton Hasbrouck Heights/Meadowlands 650 Terrace Ave, Hasbrouck Heights, NJ 07604 Headliners: Max Maven, Dan Harlan, Jason England, R. Paul Wilson, Garrett Thomas, Nick Locapo, Erik Tait, and Brent Braun Dealers: Joe Rindfleisch, Philly Magic (Dan Hauss), Meir Yedid, and Abracadabra Magic Shop Registration: http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/10712 If you can't attend the convention, refills, and a new shipment will be coming to Penguin it will just take some time. |
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goatears Veteran user 400 Posts
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Here's an uncut performance of Black Door if you are interested.
Here are a couple of things that stand out: -He performs the trick twice. -The reset is super fast. -The participant handles and examines the envelope quite a bit. -He basically has the spectator remove the contents of both envelopes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrK-4IpHOZU |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts
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Envelopes can only be possibly made in a certain number of ways . I think this is based very much on a very old principle that I have certainly read up on to a certain degree before imho . I also have made 100 envelopes in the space of one hour that yes you can only use once but they are perfect and fully examinable and cost me one hour of my life and £2 in monetary terms . Having said that I will buy this as the money doesn’t bother me and I am interested how really new this is . I can’t believe it’s not made in Tyvek ? Actually I can as they will be wanting refills to be bought Gaz 🙂
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egoli Special user The only magician from Que Que, Southern Rhodesia 737 Posts
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By the end of Magic Live the demo envelopes were starting to tear - they must have been demoed several hundred times before this happened
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Maxyedid Special user Panama 843 Posts
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Are there any DIY switching envelopes that you can recommend? Especially if the spectators can open it.
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts
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Mark Leveridge is a great resource for some , regards Gaz 🙂
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Glenn Watson Special user 781 Posts
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I believe his book is called Forever flapping.
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts
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Indeed it is Glenn , and it’s a good un Gaz 🙂
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videoman Inner circle 6748 Posts
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From the first part of the instructional video I’ve been able to watch this looks like a winner.
The quality and durability of the envelopes will be the deciding factor. Hopefully refills will be available and affordable. |
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dman11 Inner circle USA 1068 Posts
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Just so you may have another option: Blake Vogt has for sale a 4 way envelope...A little cheaper (but you do only get one) and it is made out of Tyvek so it should have good durability:
https://www.facebook.com/blakevogtmagic/......4696579/ https://blake-vogt.myshopify.com/collect......envelope |
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts
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I will buy this and as I love arts and crafts take it apart and make my own refills out of Tyvek for my own use . Best wishes Gaz 🙂
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mikenewman Inner circle Kent Island, Maryland 1114 Posts
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On Sep 5, 2019, dman11 wrote: Now this one... I mean, 4. Is AWESOME!!!!! I’m in!!!! |
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rosariorose9 Inner circle Kreskin guessed that I had 1159 Posts
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Ordered from Penguin. Should be a nice substitute for the double sided envelope provided with 'Will to Read."
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AndrewI Regular user 154 Posts
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On Sep 5, 2019, dman11 wrote: That’s a great product, but it doesn’t quite do the same. It’s better used as a multiple out rather than a switch in my opinion. You can’t put a card in Blake’s envelope, then open it again at the same end and take out a different card. Yes you could discreetly flip it end for end, but if you go from putting it in one end to taking it out one side then the spec is likely to notice something’s up! |
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The Unmasked Magician Inner circle If only I didn't have a wife and a kid I would have MUCH more than 2709 Posts
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They would. (Unless you use misdirection, like a beautiful piece of performance art that refers to Dante.
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Please check regularly if you are becoming the type of magician Jerry Seinfeld jokes about. (This applies to mentalists as well.)
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makulit974 Loyal user 259 Posts
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On Sep 5, 2019, AndrewI wrote: Another important thing to consider is that the spectator cannot handle it. Two different products indeed. Both great in my opinion. |
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