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On 2004-06-01 18:49, bobser wrote:
may I ask what you think Derren's got that you haven't?



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A British accent for one, plus a bald spot. Oh, wait I have one of those!

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Shrink,

You promised you wouldn't open any more threads with Derren's name in it. You promised !
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On 2004-06-01 18:49, bobser wrote:
And if so, may I ask what you think Derren's got that you haven't?



Two words: Marketing savvy. It enabled Derren to convince TV executives to trust him with a "six-figure budget" and to provide him with a "40-man squad" of magicians and world-class experts. Once Derren sold the program to the network's top brass, the TV shoots, with all the retakes and post production work and editing, were all child's play.

Looks easy watching from the balcony seat, but it's probably blood, sweat and tears for Derren over the years before he could snag a juicy TV contract like that.

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So, if you're correct, Leo, the answer is 'marketing savvy'. But if THAT'S true, then Andrew O'Conner (producer)is the real star. And you know what? You might just be on the money!

But seriously, you get my point guys? You don't enter the big room, not with all the marketing savvy in the world. It's a bit like Free Masonry, someone has to invite you in.

And even then you have to keep your hands over your ***** in case some exec wants to paint 'em black for f****k sakes!
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On 2004-06-01 22:47, Joshua Lozoff wrote:
Shrink,

You promised you wouldn't open any more threads with Derren's name in it. You promised !


He is nearly over now so things should die down soon. This might be my last chance to irritate you Derren clones..

DERREN DERREN DERREN......did I say DERREN?
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Shrink, wot a naive boy.
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I think Shrink should wear a box on his head.
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On 2004-06-01 21:25, shrink wrote:
He also has a bad twitch which has been well covered on TV. It's obvious every 15 seconds or so when you see him live.


Do you mean his short, sharp, downward nod of the head?
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I agree with shrink. Derren is going the same way Blaine went. Going..going...GONE.

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It was Jerry Sadowitz who recommended Derren Brown. Apparently they were looking for a new magician, and Jerry said "this guy's good".
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I don't understand the "clone" business. How does interest in the only accessible mentalist to British lay people (and some magicians) make everyone clones?
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Thank you, Beetroot! I'm interested in the ladies, but that doesn't mean I wear a bra!

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'unklepaul', that's correct. It was Sadowitz who recommended Derren. Before that I believe Andy Nyman was the man they were after, but he wasn't interested. The point is, the programme can be written and all that's necessary is to get someone who can deliver the lines/script/presentation, etc.
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Look at it this way. With all of these Derren posts being made now, when he comes over here to the USA and we start asking questions, you can just keep referencing us to these old posts.

You'll be able to save your typing energy for other things such as what program we Yanks are inflicting on the rest of the world at that time. ;-)
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It's so funny how different we Westerners are from the Eastern approach to art. In the East, a serious artist MUST have others that they admire, respect, idolize and learn from. Here, if we do, we're somehow unoriginal, uninspired mindless sheep.

Those who dislike the admiration shown here for Derren Brown should tell us whom they do feel that way about. If the answer is that they don't idolize or admire any other magician, and think that we should all be spontaneously original islands of magic, I don't really trust them that much as serious students of the art.
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Joshua has hit the figurative nail on the head!

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In the east you apprentice with a master. You ask for permission to study and you provide services in exchange for their guidance. This is different from watching a video over and over again and taking someone's work without their blessing, no?
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Salsa_dancer, may I ask who created this gif?

Very funny!
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On 2004-06-03 00:30, Babymagician wrote:
Salsa_dancer, may I ask who created this gif?

Very funny!


I am not sure who created, obviously someone with too much time on their hands... like this person...
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