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On Nov 1, 2019, Gaz Lawrence wrote:
True and you can’t iron Tyvek as it melts Gaz 🙂


You say that as if it's from experience Gaz... Smile
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LOL

“Honey, what’s that stuff sticking to the ironing board?!”
“Well, uhm, I was ironing an envelope...”
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Yes you’re dead right I forgot 😂 my new extreme burn at the time had tyvek receipts and I ironed them with a piece of cloth over the top . Alas the whole lot fused together and it cost me £60’s worth of polymer tenners lol Gaz 🙂
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On Nov 1, 2019, Gaz Lawrence wrote:

True and you can’t iron Tyvek as it melts Gaz



Try this on a small sheet of scrap Tyvek. Sandwich the small sheet of Tyvek between two sheets of printer/Xerox paper. Place it on an ironing board. Lightly spray water only on the top sheet of printer paper so as to lightly dampen the top sheet. Now heat the iron to Polyester/silk setting (lowest heat setting) and iron. While ironing ensure that no steam is let out from the steam iron (close the steam). I use this method to fold and crease Tyvek paper. Gives a nice permanent crease/fold as well as smoothens the Tyvek. Give it a try.

With the above method, in case the Tyvek melts due to over heating it will stick to the printer paper and thus won't spoil the iron or the iron-board fabric. Hence one need to test the heat level on a scrap sheet of Tyvek as the amount of heat and time needed depends on the thickness of the Tyvek paper used.


Warning: Do not try the above method on the expensive Number 4 Envelope as this envelope has various layers glued and I have no idea how the Iron heat with moisture will react.

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Smile Where would the Café be without Narendra?
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I agree Narendra is a wealth of brilliant information and he opitimizes all that is great about these boards Gaz 🙂
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So, two things: one, this is a great envelope,and certainly has a myriad of uses. But 2), what kind of product comes to you with a "how to repair it" as a part of the instructional video? The adhesive used is awful, the layers peel apart, and you are required to fix it your self (because if you returned it you would get another, and who's to say the quality of that one would be?).

I thought this was a great tool...until mine fell apart. I'd say don't buy them. Or, buy one, peel it apart to make a template, and build your own.
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First thing I did was to reverse engineer it and make another copy. It can be done without taking it apart.
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I did exactly that too Gaz 🙂
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When you purchase something brand new you shouldn't have to remake it whatever happened to quality control.
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I didn’t do it for those reasons Warren , I wanted to make it better to suit my own needs .
I do that with many many effects I buy Gaz 🙂
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Hello everyone, I just want to warn you about doin' business with Blake. More than a month ago I ordered 2 of his number 4 envelopes directly from him as I always try to support the creator ... big mistake. I paid with Paypal so I'm protected but now I'll have to go thru the hassle of getting a refund. Needless to say, I never received the package and no tracking number were provided.

The worst part is that I emailed him a couple times to let him know about the issue and I called him twice, leaving a message on his voicemail each time. He never took a minute to answer and take care of the matter. Blake seems like a very nice folk but his customer "service" is absolutely horrendous. I don't recommend doin' business with him. This is my first "negative" post on the Café and I'm sorry for that. I just wanted to protect my fellow Café brothers/sisters from very bad business practices.

Jack
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I ordered the envelope twice and both times took forever. I was communicating with a woman though.
It was like pulling teeth to get them. the 2nd one took 3 weeks to get.
Yeah, better to buy from Penguin Smile
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Thanks for the heads up, guys. I also prefer to support a creator whenever possible. Such a shame... .
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This sure looks like the envelope from "The One and Only" by Paul Harris. This has been out for years. This was the creation of Paul Harris and Rod Whitlock .

Their envelope had 4 outs and was made of Tyvek.
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Hi, does anyone please know if Blake Vogt is alright, I made a big order on his website 45 days ago but never received anything since and had no answer to the multiple emails I sent, I ordered multiple four envelopes both stage and small version, and even paid for an express delivery but since then, no news, I asked for a refund because since then I bought them from another play and still no answer on all Blake Vogt's emails.

I hope he's alright and that he'll contact me soon to make the refund.

If anybody can help, I'll be very thankful
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You are not the only one... See Jack’s post earlier. Sounds like smth is not going well.
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On Dec 14, 2019, The Unmasked Magician wrote:
You are not the only one... See Jack’s post earlier. Sounds like smth is not going well.


After waiting "forever" (more than a month) I didn't have the choice but to ask for a refund. I had to go thru the hassle of filing a complaint with Paypal, explaining the situation, etc ... I was refunded 3 weeks after my request. Blake never answer any emails I sent him, never called me back after I left a couple of message on his voicemail. I even found a lady from his team, emailed her ... she never answered back. Needless to say, I'll never do business with him in the future.

On a side note, one of my student ordered the Number 4 Enveloppe from an independent magic shop and showed it to me. I was very disappointed with it. I will NEVER put this enveloppe on a table in full view as the openings on each side are pretty visible. After playing with it for less than 5 minutes, it looked all worn out and the openings were even bigger/visible. It was a blessing in disguise that I had to be refunded because of horrendous customer service. I would never have used it. That said, Blake really seems like a great/sweet guy and I hope that nothing bad happened to him.

Jack
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Oops... that was a blessing in disguise then. Too bad, in the promo’s they look excellent!
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On Dec 15, 2019, The Unmasked Magician wrote:
Oops... that was a blessing in disguise then. Too bad, in the promo’s they look excellent!


The Unmasked Magician, trust me, in person they don't look that good. I was "fooled" by the demo too, but in person, not a chance. I'm not saying that it's unusable, it is if you keep it hidden in your pocket and take it out at the climax. To me, it's way stronger when you say that "this prediction will be visible on the table before any choice/decision will be made and will never leave your sight" ... not something I will take the chance of doing with the Number 4 Enveloppe. For a "four out empty enveloppe" solution that looks exactly as it's suppose to be and is totally natural and cheap/easy to make when they worn out, nothing beat Scott Creasey's "The empty multiple out envelope". It is a very easy DIY and the handling is easy and natural. I've been using it to perform Joshua Jay's Inferno for the last 3 years. It now as an automatic reset, is a real world worker and I don't have to deal with burnt matches/smoke or hide in the men's room to reset. I developed a super easy/clean handling for that routine using Creasey's envelope. If interested, just PM me.

Jack
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