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Dannydoyle
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No. You laid out an opinion that you didn't come close to backing up. You mentioned a whole bunch of things that the internet did not cause.
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All those words existed for centuries prior to the internet. The internet did not suddenly bring them about. To claim the internet is responsible for them is to ignore history to put forth your own opinion. Which is another thing that happens on the internet.



It's like blaming the roads for all the traffic deaths....
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In my mind, there is no doubt that the use of the internet has caused or played a part in terrible things happening. However, like all things in life that we encounter over time, both the good and the bad aspects have to be weighed to determine its value.

To me, at least so far, the rapid dissemination of knowledge on a global scale contributing to the betterment of our quality of life has outweighed the negatives.

What it has done for the field of medicine and the medical community alone is astounding.
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In my mind, there is no doubt that the use of the internet has caused or played a part in terrible things happening. However, like all things in life that we encounter over time, both the good and the bad aspects have to be weighed to determine its value.

To me, at least so far, the rapid dissemination of knowledge on a global scale contributing to the betterment of our quality of life has outweighed the negatives.

What it has done for the field of medicine and the medical community alone is astounding.


Good point slow. I’m not sure that the positives outweigh the negatives, but the negatives are so negative that it makes me feel the world was a better place before it.
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Yea I think this is the Luddite platform.
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I'm pretty sure internet luring is much more prevalent than it was before the internet.
Hacking databases for ID theft too.
Harrassment etc.
Trafficking.
Bomb threats.
Lots of others than are too horrific to mention.
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All of which have happened prior to and would continue without the internet. The more you post to justify your position the more you seem to point out how untenable it really is.

But since irony was probably the first casualty of the Internet you may never see it.

And sure Internet luring is new, but in no way can outweigh the good. Also kidnapping and luring did not spring into existence with the internet. One could have made the same accusation about the telephone or Rock and Roll. Oh wait. Old people at the time DID make those arguments!

I get it. You have your "truth " and no amount of facts and evidence will dissuade you from it. I do want to point out that it is morally reprehensible for you to use the very thing you find so destructive.

As for bomb threats and harassment come on. Kids were bullied from the beginning. You can not believe bomb threats are an Internet creation. You simply can not.
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I never said the internet created bomb threats.
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I use the internet even though I think it is bad.
I use alcohol too. Even smoked in the old days even though I knew it caused cancer.
I am morally reprehensible.
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Danny, do you have facts and evidence to prove the world is a better place with the internet?
I don't need to hear any because I respect your opinion.
In my opinion, the world would be a better place without it.
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Step 1: Narrowly focus on a small part of someone else's post.

Step 2: Argue about semantics.

Step 4: State that you are not arguing about semantics.

Step 5: Narrowly focus on a small part of someone else's post that contradicts your own.

Step 6: Ask them to prove the opposite is true; though never stated by original poster.

Step 7: Go to Step 2.
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What happened to Step 3?
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What happened to Step 3?



Step 3: If you can't make a logical argument against someone's post, criticize the formatting instead.

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That's easy for you to say...
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The internet is the worst thing to ever happen to mankind.
How is it worse than other things, such as fire, the lever, or gunpowder?
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Or electricity? Or the wheel?
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Or electricity? Or the wheel?


Exactly. How many have died because of these inventions? Has to be far more than have died because of the internet.

The position is untenable and I doubt he will ever admit it.
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Maybe someone put some spyware or some virus on his computer which caused it to screw up the settings.
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