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I have noticed that Viking now features a Wayne Dobson psychometry/chair test called "Take a Seat," It looks interesting, very portable, reasonably priced. And other sites also feature it, or have in the past.

But I can find NO evidence that anyone has performed with it; no reports, no commendations, no reviews. So I am asking for any wisdom from folks who have performed with the props.


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I've been curious about this one, too! I'd love to see a review!
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Okay, I found out what it is about. The key method is innovative and low-tech. The performance involves no sleights but does involve (what should be) a manageable short-term memory challenge, and also prop and audience management.

The close-up option sets this chair-test apart from most of the others that I am familiar with. . I have not seen and handled the props, but they should be fine. I placed my order.

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Seems to be out of stock everywhere
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Hocus Pocus has it in stock.
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Hocus locus doesn't tell you something is out of stock until you place an order. That's why I no longer use them.
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I ordered from Viking today received a FedEx shipping notice . Their price is same as others, but includes shipping and postage.

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My "Take a Seat" kit arrived from Viking today. FedExed from Edinburgh, TX to Nicholasville, KY in two days!

The bag, which contains the g__f necessary to know which spec is holding which ball, is very nicely crafted. The props exceed any reasonable expectations.

The optional closeup effect is good, but spectators are unlikely to experience it like they would experience a chair test. Also, the closeup option can actually play for a fairly large audience.

So far, I am very satisfied. $75.00 well spent.

George
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Okay, there may be more potential built into the Take a Seat props than the inventors had in mind. I was playing with it while planning for a couple of performances this week. Suddenly, I was assaulted by a blinding flash of the obvious! So obvious that I imagined that everyone would see it. But maybe not, so let me explain.

Basically, the Bag helps you to know what ball(s) are still in the bag and, by inference, which ball was just removed. My idea is this: Perhaps for th first time, one could perform a version of Maven's Kurotsuke that permits the revelation of multiple colors. That is, you'd now who holds the red snooker ball, who holds the blue, etc.

I am imagining that to reveal what four colors are held by four spectators might stretch plausibility, so in my first performances I will likely go with three--red, yellow, and blue; I think their presence can be detected in peripheral vision, and (at 81) it will be more manageable to recall who has each of three colors than four.

But I am blazing a new imaginary trail here. There must be some stuff I have not thought of, so I am sharing this with this community and inviting insights and suggestions. IF I am right, then the prop is capable of much more than Dobson and Wong originally had in mind.

Thanks in advance for any feedback,

George
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The more I reflect on the props and the instructions, the more I think I can "position" the closeup version. I now think that the closeup effect is not necessarily closeup; it can play for a fairly large audience. And the effect is much more akin to a Kurotsuke type effect than a chair test type effect.

But it varies from Kurotsuke in four ways 1) The spectators each take a ball from the bag without looking at, or knowing, their color. 2) So it plays as more of a clairvoyance demonstration than a telepathy demonstration. 3). The performer reveals the color each spectator holds, not merely who holds a single target color. 4) The reveal is also a discovery for each spectator. The performer puts a chip on the back of their close hand; when they open their hand they discover, with the audience, that the balls and chips match.

This may have the potential to become an even more notable effect than Kurotsuke. I cannot understand why the inventors made it a mere one-page, unnamed, afterthought to their good chair test.

George
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On Oct 21, 2019, George Hunter wrote:
Okay, there may be more potential built into the Take a Seat props than the inventors had in mind. I was playing with it while planning for a couple of performances this week. Suddenly, I was assaulted by a blinding flash of the obvious! So obvious that I imagined that everyone would see it. But maybe not, so let me explain.

Basically, the Bag helps you to know what ball(s) are still in the bag and, by inference, which ball was just removed. My idea is this: Perhaps for th first time, one could perform a version of Maven's Kurotsuke that permits the revelation of multiple colors. That is, you'd now who holds the red snooker ball, who holds the blue, etc.

I am imagining that to reveal what four colors are held by four spectators might stretch plausibility, so in my first performances I will likely go with three--red, yellow, and blue; I think their presence can be detected in peripheral vision, and (at 81) it will be more manageable to recall who has each of three colors than four.

But I am blazing a new imaginary trail here. There must be some stuff I have not thought of, so I am sharing this with this community and inviting insights and suggestions. IF I am right, then the prop is capable of much more than Dobson and Wong originally had in mind.

Thanks in advance for any feedback,

George

George - if you indeed performed it this past week I'm interested to know how it played and if you modified it at all. Thank you. - Terry
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Hi Terry:

Thanks for your interest. I have performed it twice, and have made the following revisions:

1. I decidedt to perform it as telepathy, not clairvoyance. So the spec would look and see what snooker ball they hold.

2. To know what ball is suddenly missing, you need to peek at what balls remain.. (In my first trial run, the wife saw me look at the bag.). So in the performances, I invited each spec to view the ball they just withdrew; I held the black opaque bag in front of my face so I could not see their ball, which gave me cover to see the remaining balls.

3. I stuck with the earlier plan to put three balls in play rather than four.

4. In the future, I will announce my goal to find who has the red ball. After catching them 'red handed," I will suddenly sense and reveal who has the blue and who the yellow.

5. I now name the effect (for myself) as "Snooker Kurotsuke."

This is my favorite purchase of 2019. I like it when a prop exceeds my expectations. I think that Viking has sold out, but Stevens has a couple of kits available..

George
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Hi Terry:

Thanks for your interest. I have performed it twice, and have made the following revisions:

1. I decidedt to perform it as telepathy, not clairvoyance. So the spec would look and see what snooker ball they hold.

2. To know what ball is suddenly missing, you need to peek at what balls remain.. (In my first trial run, the wife saw me look at the bag.). So in the performances, I invited each spec to view the ball they just withdrew; I held the black opaque bag in front of my face so I could not see their ball, which gave me cover to see the remaining balls.

3. I stuck with the earlier plan to put three balls in play rather than four.

4. In the future, I will announce my goal to find who has the red ball. After catching them 'red handed," I will suddenly sense and reveal who has the blue and who the yellow.

5. I now name the effect (for myself) as "Snooker Kurotsuke."

This is my favorite purchase of 2019. I like it when a prop exceeds my expectations. I think that Viking has sold out, but Stevens has a couple of kits available..

George


Thank you for the reply, George. Your routine sounds like a winner!

Sending you a PM.

Terry
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It's a great trick -here is my review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtTJnYF5Qts
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David

Thanks for your splendid review, AND for getting this thread back on track. Take a Seat IS primarily marketed as a chair test.

My comments focused on the closeup version and even veered more into the props' use for a Kurotsuke type routine.

It is, indeed, very promising as a chair test.

George
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I think I understand how the bag works.
Just how to get the spec to the right chair seems a challenge.
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Todd: The methods for influencing who occupies what chair, in the good instructions, involve some audacity and audience management.

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Okay George looks like a good effect.
And you like it whichs means a lot.
I might have to spring for it.
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Todd: I do like this approach to a chair test, but may not perform it much because it requires placing some evidence behind or under four chairs before one’s show starts. But I usually perform for audiences that are already gathered when I get there, giving me no opportunity to secretly gaff four chairs.

I was especially intrigued by the optional closeup effect and then, the more I admired the bag, the more I saw the opportunity to advance Maven’s Kurotsuke type of effect. You will like the prop’s simple innovation that permits the performer to know which ball was removed.

George
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