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Race Blakhart
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Hey everyone, I've been involved with magic and mentalism for years now. But for whatever reason, I never really saw or read anything about Fast and Loose(save for one Penguin Lecture, but I forget who's). I'd really like to learn more about it, but haven't a clue where to start.
Hopefully this isn't a redundant post. I didn't see anything by browsing the subjects in the first few pages.
Any information is sincerely appreciated!
vanp8
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If you look up School for Scoundrels Pop Haydn and Chef Anton have did a thorough job of writing this up and rebranding the scam. However if you have time to research you will find info on it in Magic Digest by GeorgeB Anderson page 87 called Australian Belt. Magic as a hobby by Bruce Elliot page page 70 called on the Barrelhead credited L. Vosburgh Lyons. Numerous other sources are available but the School for Scoundrels is the best source for chain and info.
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I used to do this in a Restaurant setting. I was afraid of offending parents having children gamble so I presented it like this. If they win I would give them a note allowing them to miss school and a bottle of their favorite soda. But if they lost they would have to do a chore for their parents. Always got laughs from parents. Then I would follow up with "It's a win win situation a day off from school or do something nice for your parents." Then I let the children take turns till everyone has a chance. Then its followed up by double or nothing no chore. I tried to end before they end up with more than 2 chores and invite them back next week for a rematch. Original to me.
Race Blakhart
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Thank you so much for that valuable information, and for sharing your original routine. That is really VERY clever, and I like it a lot!

I'll be looking up the sources you mentioned.
I'm excited to learn something new.
Thanks again!
vanp8
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Https://youtu.be/lEDKhrozqj0
New twist on a devilish classic from scam school on YouTube
I had done this for years and found this very informative.
Good luck and your welcome. I hope link works if not use title to look up.
Pop Haydn
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Here is my video on the history and methods with original moves and routines:

https://www.popsmagic.com/store/p59/Fast......PDF.html
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I can vouch for Pop Haydn and Chef Anton's work. It's very good stuff.
Race Blakhart
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On Oct 18, 2019, Pop Haydn wrote:
Here is my video on the history and methods with original moves and routines:

https://www.popsmagic.com/store/p59/Fast......PDF.html

Thanks so much, good sir! Coming from you, this will be a real treat. I'll have to grab it right now while I have a few bucks to spend!
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Can't go wrong with Pop's video. Here's a second choice I reviewed on another page. Great stuff..Johnny Thompson version https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......orum=159
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