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On Oct 23, 2019, magicfish wrote: I hear street-art is the gateway to murder.
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It certainly can be, but not in this case from what I know. I do know however that financially supporting criminals is financially supporting criminals. So where do you draw the line Salk? At Vandals? Would you purchase art from those who knock down headstones? Arsonists? Terrorists? Murderers? What is your cut off point.
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The People determine value. Some of the finest art treasures in the world are drawn on walls and ceilings or installed in public-squares. Art is far more subjective than council-approved curb appeal.
If you want to define vandalism as non-commissioned public-works, then yes I condone some vandalism.
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I don't. I define it as the Oxford English Dictionary does:
action involving deliberate destruction of or damage to public or private property. |
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Society occasionally gives artists a pass for deliberately defacing public property.
I posit if the government and populace approve then it is not "damage".
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Keith Haring comes to mind.
"If you ever write anything about me after I'm gone, I will come back and haunt you."
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On Oct 24, 2019, Mr Salk wrote: The government approves? Are you sure? The populace approves? Are you sure? |
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On Oct 24, 2019, magicfish wrote: If you are still talking about Banksy, yes. Tours of his destructive vandalism are very popular in London.
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London yes, and?
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Southern fairies
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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Mr Salk Special user Tied to 568 Posts
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On Oct 24, 2019, magicfish wrote: I don't know where you're going with this. If you don't appreciate Banksy's whimsical social-satire that's ok. But it's a Londoner's cup of tea.
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On Oct 24, 2019, Mr Salk wrote: Are you speaking on behalf of all 9 million of them officially or is this just your opinion? And what about the other 60 million outside London? |
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On Oct 24, 2019, magicfish wrote: The locals speak on their own behalf. Neighborhoods set their own standards and they tolerate Banksy's vandalism. Outsider opinions are not relevant. Are you are aiming for a tangential conversation about the ethics of separation of Art and Artist?
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So an Englishman who wants to take his family to visit the capital city has to be subjected to vandalism and graffiti?
His opinion is not relevant you say? How dare you. Every English citizen from the white cliffs of Dover to the Blackpool seaside to Cornwall to Newcastle has a relevant opinion on the state of his or her capital city. |
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Mr Salk Special user Tied to 568 Posts
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On Oct 24, 2019, magicfish wrote: A Human who wants to take his family to visit Virginia or the Louvre has to be subjected to art and statues they may find objectionable. His opinions are not relevant. I dare. Art and Value are not terms that get to be defined by outsiders or majority-vote.
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Art and Value are terms that get to be defined by insiders and the minority and they think it is vandalism and graffiti?
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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On Oct 24, 2019, tommy wrote: This is a censorship-jurisdiction question: city/county/state/nation/globe Who should decide if magicfish can read Salmon Rushdie, see a Banksy or listen to Lenny Bruce? Sure as shoot'n not Cornwall.
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On Oct 24, 2019, Mr Salk wrote: Normally your posts are thought out better. You conveniently left out the criminal element. 1. Going to the Louvre and seeing art you don't like has zero to do with going to London to see something other than art and seeing it covered with graffiti. 2. I don't think the art work at the Louvre was painted or sculpted during the commission of a crime. 3. If the locals around Washington D.C. decided to paint the Whitehouse, the Lincoln Memorial, The Washington Monument teal with chartreuse polka dots, would someone from Maine have a relevant opinion? Maybe the Eiffel Tower should be painted camo. Hey, as long as the locals like it right? |
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On Oct 24, 2019, magicfish wrote: 1. Seeing things that are unexpected or disagreeable in your home-town is one of the joys of travel. 2. The British Museum is essentially halls of stolen-antiquity from centuries of colonialism. 3. Local governments and the populace have every right to do what they like in their jurisdictions. The Space Needle in Seattle: As part of the celebration of its 50th anniversary, the Needle was painted "Galaxy Gold" in April 2012, the same color used when the needle was originally constructed for the 1962 World's Fair. This temporary makeover, intended to last through the summer, is not the Needle's first: it had the University of Washington (UW) Huskies football team logo painted after the team won the 1992 Rose Bowl, appeared as a giant "Wheel of Fortune" in 1995, was painted crimson after Washington State won the Apple Cup, and has been seen in Seattle SuperSonics colors.
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