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webbyla New user 66 Posts |
OK after enjoying PK Silverware and destroying 'lots' of cutlery where do I go next?
Are any of the rest of the bending dvds out there as good as this? Do they teach anything radically different? Or is it more about how to conceal the work and handle the audience - which is definitely something I need more work at. ta. /webbyla |
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Anabelle Special user 951 Posts |
Even though I don't do much metal bending at all, I've watched that video and also the kuffs metal bending. Since I haven't seen any others, I would say the kuffs metal bending should be your next one. Lots of variations and bends on there.
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Roth Inner circle The 18 5090 Posts |
PK silverware is a great routine.I've heard Guy Bavaldi
(may have misspelled that)has some good work on his video.Good luck. |
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mysterious_guy New user 98 Posts |
I'll second the vote for the Guy Bavli videos - some great stuff on them. I've also heard some good things about Kuffs work on the subject - maybe worth checking out.
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Scott Xavier Inner circle 3672 Posts |
Bavli's stuff is good. Some of the best material on those videos doesn't involve spoons or bending though.
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Mystery Loyal user 248 Posts |
I started metal bending after seeing Bavli lecture... and buying his notes.
It was definately something that worked for me. And PK silverware meant an improvement on technique i.m.o. I'm curiouos about Kuffs, though...
Let your dreams tear apart your life, before your life tears apart your dreams...
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czero Loyal user NYC 282 Posts |
I've also enjoyed Banachek's PK Silverware (though my DVD has some really annoying technical glitches). I use his tine bend regularly; and when conditions are right for it, the stem twist absolutely kills. But I also love Richard Osterlind's spoon-bending routine on his Mind Mysteries set--not to mention his iron SPIKE-bending routine(!).
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cloneman Elite user 474 Posts |
Check out the Side Bend spoon. It's a gimmicked, but with the right handling can be handed out afterwards. The nice thing about doing the side bend after doing a few of Bancheck's routines (which, I agree are excellent), is that there is NO WAY a spoon could be bent to the side in the hand, thus reinforcing your "powers" in the spectator's mind.
"Anything is possible... if you don't know what you are talking about."
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webbyla New user 66 Posts |
Yeh, I forgot about Osterlind's spoon/spike bends. The spoon stuff is good but for the spike bend I really would need some serious pratice before some sort of "in the know" audience to sort out the various angles.
The tine bend is so easy to just slip in under any conditions but the twist is without doubt my favourite. It is just nuts. I am definitely interested in Kuffs dvd and will check out the Bavli material also. Thanks for the advice. /webbyla PS Where is Banachek's accent from - I couldn't figure it out. It seems like 2 different accents - a more dominate one and one that slips out every now and then. Anyone know from whence he came? |
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Steve Knight Elite user Oxford U.K. 479 Posts |
Steve Shaw originally came from the U.K., that might be what you're detecting.
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Scott Xavier Inner circle 3672 Posts |
Actually, I believe b is from south africa. Just my psi ability.
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Mystery Loyal user 248 Posts |
...and your psi ability is correct, of course...
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webbyla New user 66 Posts |
Well I wouldn't have guessed S African. I thought it was a more UK tinge but I bow to your greater knowledge.
/webbyla |
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Elputty Regular user Minnesota 114 Posts |
I don't have any resources of just spoon bending, but a bend I really love is from Gregory Wilson's On The Spot video. He uses it as misdirection for a watch steal, but I just use it as bend. I've had a luck doing some coin bending from Sean Field's Explicit Content.
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7th_Son Elite user Australia 437 Posts |
How physically strong do you need to be to bend spoons and tines?
"Here's to our wives and girlfriends...may they never meet!" - Groucho Marx
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salsa_dancer Inner circle 1935 Posts |
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On 2004-05-31 21:00, 7th_Son wrote: It is all done with the mind so physical strength has no part in it |
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Scott Xavier Inner circle 3672 Posts |
Heck, crabs and other shell fish bend tines all the time. Are you stronger then a shell fish?
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plainman007 Special user 630 Posts |
Webby la,
How practical are the routines in PSYCHOKINETIC SILVERWARE? I'm planning to buy it and need your advice. I perform stage shows and want to have an episode of mind power interspersed with my illusions. Would this work well? Or is there a lot of dirty work like bending the spoons, etc., right before the audience which is possible with a small crowd but not a huge audience and cameras zooming in. Please advise. Thanks. |
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Alan Wright New user Nova Scotia, Canada 71 Posts |
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On 2004-08-24 16:06, plainman007 wrote: If you do it properly, audience size shouldn't be an issue. Just because there are more doesn't mean you'll be caught. They are all looking the same way as a small crowd would. I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet, especially since PK Silverware has, but there's always volume 4 of the Psi Series, although I don't know too much about it at the time. Looks great, though. By the way, if you get the Bavli DVD/Videos you will need a certain gimmick to do a few of the bends, so be prepared to shell out some extra cash if those are what you go for.
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webbyla New user 66 Posts |
I am probably not the best person to ask as I only really do it in small groups but Banachek states he does it in his stage shows and has cameras zooming in on his hands - infact you can ask Banachek on this board or PM him.
The DVD gives you the moves + the psychology to disguise the moves. They are pretty well impossible to spot especially as you don't tell the spec/audience what you are going to be doing until after the dirty work has been done. The bends really are done in fractions of a second in front of the spec/camera with little chance of detection unless a. Audience know exactly what they are looking for (even then it would be very hard to spot) b. Slow the video down and keep your eyes on his hands and don't blink There are only really 2 moves you need to set up ahead of time for a stage audience. For a small group you can even get away with putting the work in under their noses almost. Ian Rowland also has a routine in his Lecture Notes that might fit your reqs. It is a spoon bend/break. The method is trivial but the routine is good and there is no dirty work whilst on stage. In short I recommend Banachek's dvd - because I am sure you could fit elements of it in your show and because it just soooooo much fun bending metal. If you go for Ian Rowlands you will have one technique (which is on Banachek's DVD) and one great routine (which you can probably adapt quite easily and slot into your own show). However this is the only metal bending in the notes. The rest is good strong mentalism if that is your thing! |
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