On Dec 15, 2019, Robb wrote:
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All dead on. So in summary: everyone says “it’s not about the prop but the presentation” but then the presentation is all about the prop!

... Admittedly this is not as much of a concern with magic or mental magic, but for mentalism, it can be deadly to your credibility and impact as a performer.

On Dec 15, 2019, NeverMind wrote:

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On Dec 15, 2019, JanForster wrote:
They know of loaded and magnetic dice. Not true, false explanation, but also false explanations we have to exclude or to destroy in our construction of a routine. And it is easy: A dice which has been put consciously by a participant with a specific number on top ...
Jan

Great post, Jan. But I sort of disagree with the above portion. If a spec has to consciously put a specific number on top, then he can as well simply think of a number between 1-6 - why use a die at all? A die is there to be rolled - that's the purpose of its existence - and the built in 1 in 6 randomness. A die basically represents "chance" and not "choice", imo. And finally, if someone suspects that the roll is being read on a smart phone - that perception would not change whether the die is rolled or a number is consciously put on top.

Jan, I admire you and love your work. Hope to meet you sometime, somewhere...

On Dec 15, 2019, Magic Dust wrote:
I am surprised that so many tips and hints are made publicly accessible here

Why are there more "protected rooms" that are not accessible to everyone ?

From my point of view, something is going seriously massive wrong here

On Dec 14, 2019, Ustaad wrote:

. . . . . Simply post the link here or better open a topic in the Banquet Room and post the Link & PW. Also at the Banquet Room, one can then discuss this new prop/routines/performance tips more freely.

On Dec 15, 2019, JanForster wrote:
Agreed! Let's ask the moderators to move the entire thread downstairs. Jan

On Dec 15, 2019, Magic Mark wrote:
Jan,

Thank you for your thoughts.


For those that have purchased Anverdi Mental Dice, a tip. I've put the receiver inside a playing card box. I cut a rectangular hole in the BOTTOM of the card box. The height of the hole is just slightly taller than the height of the displayed numbers. The width of the hole is just wide enough to show all the numbers plus allow access to the power button on the receiver. Since the hole's dimensions are a fair bit smaller than the receiver, the receiver is held in place securely.

I then shortened an entire deck of playing cards by the thickness of the receiver. After putting the receiver in place in the inside bottom of the card box, I wadded up a little bit of paper and stuffed it into the gap between the end of the receiver and the other side of the card box. Then I placed the shortened playing cards into the box to hold the receiver and wad of paper in place.

It worked beautifully. I can slip the playing card box down into my shirt breast pocket with the bottom facing up. It's super easy to glimpse the numbers. And, if I absolutely had to, I could remove the playing cards (hiding the receiver as I did so), flip open the top, and even partially remove the deck of cards from the box. But, it's highly unlikely I'd ever need to do that.

I'll post photos tomorrow. I've got a Holiday Party to get ready for, I plan to perform Mental Dice while I'm there.


Magic mark take some time and re read Jan’s post. He is one of the very few on the Café who are actually performing mentalism professionally for a real audience. You are over looking this Valuable information that can and will help you grow if you are serious about this art. More is not better... workers will tell you this all the time. It’s not about the ending but the process and growth of the relationship you establish with your audience. Show process. Allow your audience to be involved in this much needed process. Passions run deep with almost everyone on this Café. Try to align your passion with what matters. Not how cool and creative your hidden method for the visual receiver is. I’m not a full time worker. I’ve been passionately involved for years in mentalism and have learned a substantial amount from
Jan and others who rely on understanding what mentalism is and how to perform it is who you should be listening to. Forgive me for saying your routine you mentioned lacks the basic understanding on how to perform mentalism correctly. Zero process of what you are actually showing for your “skill” during the The second phase. If they don’t know then how the hell do you know... !! Logical minds go directly to your highlighted prop. On another note. A lot of workers are actually very worried about the state of easy access electronics. It’s not good. It’s going to stop progression from creators. Using electronics Without the respect and knowledge of basic mentalism is part of the major trivialization of mentalism. Cheaper and cheaper access to electronics will stop valuable tools to be in the right hands. The anverdi offerings is not going to be good .. one bit for the mentalism in whole. The idea that anverdi created the dice is laughable. What he created was a novelty. Who uses a 5 inch dice in the gaming world. It’s been said before. Craig F deserves more respect. I’ve watched some of the instructional video for the anverdi dice. One thing absolutely wrong was said. It was mentioned that never before has a rechargeable dice been available. Total **** and I think Murphy’s should fix this irrefutable comment.

Mark

On Dec 15, 2019, Magic Mark wrote:
Jan,

Thank you for your thoughts.


For those that have purchased Anverdi Mental Dice, a tip. I've put the receiver inside a playing card box. I cut a rectangular hole in the BOTTOM of the card box. The height of the hole is just slightly taller than the height of the displayed numbers. The width of the hole is just wide enough to show all the numbers plus allow access to the power button on the receiver. Since the hole's dimensions are a fair bit smaller than the receiver, the receiver is held in place securely.

I then shortened an entire deck of playing cards by the thickness of the receiver. After putting the receiver in place in the inside bottom of the card box, I wadded up a little bit of paper and stuffed it into the gap between the end of the receiver and the other side of the card box. Then I placed the shortened playing cards into the box to hold the receiver and wad of paper in place.

It worked beautifully. I can slip the playing card box down into my shirt breast pocket with the bottom facing up. It's super easy to glimpse the numbers. And, if I absolutely had to, I could remove the playing cards (hiding the receiver as I did so), flip open the top, and even partially remove the deck of cards from the box. But, it's highly unlikely I'd ever need to do that.

I'll post photos tomorrow. I've got a Holiday Party to get ready for, I plan to perform Mental Dice while I'm there.


Magic mark take some time and re read Jan’s post. He is one of the very few on the Café who are actually performing mentalism professionally for a real audience. You are over looking this Valuable information that can and will help you grow if you are serious about this art. More is not better... workers will tell you this all the time. It’s not about the ending but the process and growth of the relationship you establish with your audience. Show process. Allow your audience to be involved in this much needed process. Passions run deep with almost everyone on this Café. Try to align your passion with what matters. Not how cool and creative your hidden method for the visual receiver is. I’m not a full time worker. I’ve been passionately involved for years in mentalism and have learned a substantial amount from
Jan and others who rely on understanding what mentalism is and how to perform it is who you should be listening to. Forgive me for saying your routine you mentioned lacks the basic understanding on how to perform mentalism correctly. Zero process of what you are actually showing for your “skill” during the The second phase. If they don’t know then how the hell do you know... !! Logical minds go directly to your highlighted prop. On another note. A lot of workers are actually very worried about the state of easy access electronics. It’s not good. It’s going to stop progression from creators. Using electronics Without the respect and knowledge of basic mentalism is part of the major trivialization of mentalism. Cheaper and cheaper access to electronics will stop valuable tools to be in the right hands. The anverdi offerings is not going to be good .. one bit for the mentalism in whole. The idea that anverdi created the dice is laughable. What he created was a novelty. Who uses a 5 inch dice in the gaming world. It’s been said before. Craig F deserves more respect. I’ve watched some of the instructional video for the anverdi dice. One thing absolutely wrong was said. It was mentioned that never before has a rechargeable dice been available. Total **** and I think Murphy’s should fix this irrefutably wrong comment.

Mark

On Dec 12, 2019, paw wrote:
Hey Guys –

Patrick from Murphy’s here.
Thanks for all your great comments! I wanted to address any confusion that may be out there pertaining to the Anverdi rights.

Murphy’s Magic has owned the rights for around a decade. No one had asked us for permission to produce any of Anverdi’s products. In return, we have never asked (or received) any compensation whatsoever from anyone making them.

Our mission was not only to put out the best product, but to give credit where credit is due. I was very surprised at how many people did not know Tony Anverdi had invented the following electronic products; MENTAL DICE, COLOR MATCH, SPIRIT BELL, TALKING SKULL, CARD BOX, KEY BOX, etc. The man was a genius and deserves all the credit...

We all hope you enjoy the new Mental Dice by Tony Anverdi!

P

On Dec 15, 2019, Koveskali wrote:

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On Dec 12, 2019, paw wrote:
Hey Guys –

Patrick from Murphy’s here.
Thanks for all your great comments! I wanted to address any confusion that may be out there pertaining to the Anverdi rights.

Murphy’s Magic has owned the rights for around a decade. No one had asked us for permission to produce any of Anverdi’s products. In return, we have never asked (or received) any compensation whatsoever from anyone making them.

Our mission was not only to put out the best product, but to give credit where credit is due. I was very surprised at how many people did not know Tony Anverdi had invented the following electronic products; MENTAL DICE, COLOR MATCH, SPIRIT BELL, TALKING SKULL, CARD BOX, KEY BOX, etc. The man was a genius and deserves all the credit...

We all hope you enjoy the new Mental Dice by Tony Anverdi!

P

But from what I know, Anverdi's die ( singular and in performance covered with a box ) was nothing like the" Anverdi's dice" that you at Murphy's have released, BUT it is very much ( too much, almost exactly the same much ) like Marc Antoine's Mental Dice - 3 colours/3 Dice/ Visual receiver... Which Murphy's magic used to stock until the creator pulled it.... No wonder you haven't asked any compensation from anyone making them, because it was a different concept really and a different product ... I think someone else should get compensation though...

On Dec 16, 2017, Ustaad wrote:
I feel and humbly suggest that we stop addressing and proving the never ending rip-off theory. IMO, if Marc's dice is rip-off of Craig, then Craig's die is also a rip-off of Anverdi (and few others). Let's put an end to this and move on. Also it gives me an impression that this exclusive 'Mental Dice by Marc Antoine' thread is being used to forcefully advocate Craig's Die. This is not good. One may discuss at length the pros-n-cons of the two die's, but must restrain from any such forceful tactics.

Thank you.

On Dec 16, 2019, Woodini wrote:
Got my Mental Dice three days ago. The video performance and explanation are somewhat wanting, but the dice are wonderful. For me, the dice will be an invisible (not thought of) part of other amazing routines. As always, the constant whining on the Café is depressing.

On Dec 16, 2019, John McLaughlin wrote:
I’m going through all 13 pages of comments and don’t know if this has been asked and answered, but has anyone found a source for replica dice to give away when the need presents itself?

Thanks