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Bulla
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Mr Bones, if you look at the description to all the subs here you'll see that they all don't have the word "entertainment." Does that also mean that they aren't about that? You're on a forum for magicians and entertainers. Everything here falls under that category and doesn't need to be stated every single time. Topics are discussed for the sake of entertainment. I highly doubt that Steve Brooks endorses or encourages any criminal activity.
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Why "criminal activity"?
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On Jan 14, 2020, Mr. Bones wrote:

Although all are welcome, the intent of the forum as described by the moderators is:

"History, theory and ideas surrounding the mysterious world of the unscrupulous gambler. Topics may include card cheating, card counters, advantage players, etc. Strategies, theories and schemes for winning at Poker, BlackJack, Slots, Roulette, Craps and other casino games"

As you can see, "entertainment" isn't mentioned anywhere.


Bones, I have to disagree with you on this. I find many of these posts to be entertaining and even humorous at times. Not particularly informative of course, and often not on point, but certainly "entertaining" to read.

(Yes, I know that is not the point you are trying to make.) Smile
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What can or cannot be used depends on the circumstances and in steer games one can create one’s own circumstances. Paul Wilson, who is a member here, demonstrated just that quite nicely when he cold decked the Hendon Mob.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtWqSLtAr9I
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On Jan 14, 2020, Bulla wrote:
"Doesn't he know that he can get people who does this for real killed."

You can't actually be serious about this can you? I mean if you're using this to steal money from people then you are the lowest scum of the earth. Who cares if people use these moves in real games? You shouldn't be doing that in the first place. This is a forum for entertainment not for people who want to scam and hustle others out of money and live a dishonest lifestyle. If you choose to live that way then you accept all the risks that comes along with it and that includes putting your life on the line every day for a measly buck.


I’m not going to comment on the ethics but the idea that cheats put their life on the line is BS. There are occasional risks for some but mostly they pick their spot. Besides have you seen many cheats? Most of them couldn’t knock the skin off a custard.
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Personally, I will be raising complaints with Paul directly.

Last week, I tried one of the switches in game (the one where you take a deck and then ribbon spread it) and was beaten almost to the point of bruising.

Following night, I tried another one of the switches (this time, the one where you switch the deck as you're pulling them out of the box) and the surveillance guys spotted it. I got weighed in by the bouncers.

Tomorrow, I'm planning to try some of the Tenkai grip switches in my no limit Omaha game. Should be fine I reckon, but if not I'm emailing Paul for my money back.

He's going to get people killed at this rate.
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It is standard industry procedure to spread the deck at the start of a game to check that the cards are all present and correct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8iuLaWOk94

In my experience croupiers are rarely attacked for doing so except by magicians, who tend to be all brawn and no brains.
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On Jan 17, 2020, tommy wrote:
It is standard industry procedure to spread the deck at the start of a game to check that the cards are all present and correct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8iuLaWOk94

In my experience croupiers are rarely attacked for doing so except by magicians, who tend to be all brawn and no brains.


I think that was part of the problem. I switched the deck, spread it face up for inspection and they noticed it was in my cooler set up rather than new deck order. Definitely a timing issue.
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Gets down to what it's all about, doesn't it?
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On Jan 14, 2020, Bulla wrote:
Mr Bones, if you look at the description to all the subs here you'll see that they all don't have the word "entertainment." Does that also mean that they aren't about that? You're on a forum for magicians and entertainers. Everything here falls under that category and doesn't need to be stated every single time. Topics are discussed for the sake of entertainment.


If you had even a clue what you were talking about, you'd likely be dangerous!
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On Jan 14, 2020, Bulla wrote:
Ok, I'll recant what I said about this being a forum for entertainers. But on a serious note, why would someone think it's ok to complain about someone else making your job of being a criminal harder? That's a good thing. You chose that life. You have absolutely nothing to complain about.



Well... I see some of the things magicians do as dishonest and borderline criminal. Like any magician who is lying about having special powers, or being psychic. Can I go and tip all the mentalism effects I know because someone is claiming to be special?

I don't just mean people like Uri Geller, Peter popoff or any "psychic"... But If you've ever watched America's got talent, there are many people who have some BS story about being special. Can I go and tip anything they do without backlash from any magicians? ... They chose that life, They claim to be more special than the rest of us, They deserve it!
Claiming the types of special powers they have are real, perpetuates stupidity, lack of logical thinking and problem solving for current and future generations! If people were any wiser, it surely would be recognized as crimes against humanity.

And God help me I'm so f'ing sick of seeing people performing Sam the bellhop and having it go viral.. they don't even shuffle the f'ing deck!!! Not enough discipline to learn one *** false shuffle! That's criminal. I should probably expose it.

The difference is that one is only in danger of losing respect from the public and the other is in danger of losing teeth.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather some lying sack of S gets called out and publicly humiliated from my doing than having someone end up in the hospital because I wanted to make $7 on a video...

(All hypothetical though as I've gathered that the contents of the video don't contain much, if any useful deck switches for game use.)
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