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topherhester Loyal user 295 Posts 
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So I was talking with my brother who is not a magician but he said “I know you perform some dark material sometimes but what’s the darkest routine you perform or have ever seen?”
That got me to thinking.. Because I do paid shows open to the public, I usually keep things on the edge of dark but I never perform things that I think would be truly unsettling or that are so heavy there is no release or entertainment factor to it. So now I’m curious. What’s the darkest routines you perform or have seen in person? I mean dark as emotionally dark, emotionally disturbing, thematically dark, etc. |
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WitchDocChris Inner circle York, PA 2614 Posts
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Darkest ever or darkest I regularly perform?
I've done a psychic surgery routine based around Sin Eating. Some have called that dark. I also currently have a routine based around the idea of voodoo dolls, which I don't think is dark personally, but some might. I think the 'darkest' was probably a routine I did for a Satanist's Devil's Night ritual, though. I am not going to go into specifics but it involved three volunteers and some needles.
Christopher
Witch Doctor Psycho Seance book: https://tinyurl.com/y873bbr4 Boffo eBook: https://tinyurl.com/387sxkcd |
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topherhester Loyal user 295 Posts
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I think the darkest I have done for a public show was a variation of Eugene burgers Retribution. I changed quite a few things and didn’t use tarot cards. Instead I used a voodoo doll. I didn’t really play it tongue in cheek like Eugene did so it was heavier than my other routines. And ending with the razor really drives people over the edge. Not in a good way lol. Have to be careful too as some people are cutters in real life or have lost people to suicide so I made sure it was the right audience.
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WitchDocChris Inner circle York, PA 2614 Posts
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True. It's always important to know the audience. For me ritual performance was explicitly described as being dark, involving blood, etc. No worries about offending anyone.
Christopher
Witch Doctor Psycho Seance book: https://tinyurl.com/y873bbr4 Boffo eBook: https://tinyurl.com/387sxkcd |
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balzar Loyal user 207 Posts
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Probably more in the geek vein (so to speak), I did Pen and Tellers cut and restored live snake. It is a great effect, but one loses about a quarter of the audience as soon as you introduce the snake, and another third when you sever it and the blood hits the ceiling.
The restoration plays well for the fraction of the audience remaining. |
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Lo Pan Special user Haven't slept in weeks - but I now have 769 Posts
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I love this thread! My favorite is Cuss Cards
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Lo Pan Special user Haven't slept in weeks - but I now have 769 Posts
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The darkest routine I’ve ever seen was at a Blackstone and Family show. For tie finally they used a logging saw to cut a girl about half way through her abdomen and left her there on the table with her intestines hanging out for the audience to walk past and view close up. The illusion was presented in ceremonial style and the fact that they just left her body out there for viewing was so Bizarre - I will never forget it.
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Lo Pan Special user Haven't slept in weeks - but I now have 769 Posts
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The show was in the 80s and I was in my early teens...
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topherhester Loyal user 295 Posts
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That sounds awesome!
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The Curator V.I.P. Beware Vampire, I have 3910 Posts
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Relic may be the darkest I ever performed.
But my wn Krampus version isn't light either. |
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gothicmagic Inner circle Ubiquitous 1374 Posts
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Hmm My Death Card routine where the selected audience member has died in their sleep and must win back their chance at life, Fallen Angels By Paul prater (about a fire at an orphanage) Inferno about a Circus fire
;) 99% of all my material is Dark and we do have cookies
Vlad ^0^
One of The Founding Fathers of The East Coast Spirit Sessions & Co Producer of Bizarre hauntings ECSS I,II,III,IV,V,VI Order of the Hexidic |
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docdazzal Veteran user San Tan Valley, AZ 360 Posts
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Hi All...
Although I don't perform this at all my presentations...I have a routine where I use DarkSpell in conjunction with Cuss Cards. I also use DarkSpell with my Sin Eater Presentation in conjunction with the Seven Sins. Looks on the Faces is Priceless... Dr. Dan |
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GlennLawrence Veteran user Randolph NJ 320 Posts
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On Dec 20, 2019, Lo Pan wrote: When this topic came up the first thing that came to my mind was Ricciardi's sawing. Same kind of thing, a lot of blood and innards hanging out, very graphic. If my memory is correct on this, he also used his own daughter as the victim which made it extra creepy and disturbing! |
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Todd Robbins V.I.P. New York 2922 Posts
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Well, there’s this. https://youtu.be/OOLpMzNvyg4
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docdazzal Veteran user San Tan Valley, AZ 360 Posts
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Hey Todd...
Very Cool Indeed... Continued Success, Dan |
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topherhester Loyal user 295 Posts
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Todd, I greatly wanted to see Play Dead in its entirety. Considering the brilliant minds behind it, it had to be amazing. How’s everything going at the Mckittrick? Saw Cagigal was dropping in for Speakeasy this week.
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Smoking Camel Inner circle UK 1039 Posts
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Demon summoning involving some sort of living sacrifice is always dark.
I no longer smoke camel cigarettes.
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Nick Birch Regular user Holmfirth, UK 160 Posts
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Depression era children selling their souls by paying the creepy clown to play ‘The Kn0wing G@me’. Doesn’t get much darker or unsettling than that.
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weepinwil Inner circle USA 3828 Posts
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On Dec 20, 2019, Nick Birch wrote: If played right, Witch Hazel can be pretty dark. Also ASH if you add a possessed doll like the drawing. Almost got the police called on me for that one.
"Til Death us do part!" - Weepin Willie
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Intrepid Inner circle Silver Spring, MD 1183 Posts
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Todd, I was so glad I was able to see Play Dead when I was in NY years ago. Watching you eat glass goes up there with dark and disturbing. I hope you have since changed your diet to softer foods.
Bob
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