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TheAmbitiousCard
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I'm 2 for 2.

Watch number two was my mother in-laws watch. She had no idea. I also was pretty
sloppy. I'm surprised she did not pick up on it.

I'm doing these one-handed just like off the Jeff Hobson video.
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More than skill, in a watch steal, is GUTS.
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Hey I'll fix it...
I have twin girls that are 18 month old. When I get on the computer it is for a few seconds at a time. I am just as good with my photos as my watch steal. I just set the wrong one...
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I have been stealing watches for about five or six years, and I am so happy that this is something I have in my arsenal.

I started with a book called "Theatrical Pickpocketing," by Jim Ravell. I followed this years later with the late Chappy Brazil's video, and this clarified my handling immensely.

Contrary to the spirit of the video, I do not purport to steal every kind of watch under the sun, and I think that the Rolex steal looks neither natural nor deceptive.

Suffice it to say, I reserve my steals for the leather band, buckle types on the left arm, and I usually steal from women. Perhaps this is limiting, but I will almost always encounter these watches at some point anyhow.

In a cocktail party environment, I need only steal one--the story will move faster than me, and by the time I'm across the room, they've already heard about it.

I do absolutely love Chappy's "I'm sorry maam, they just slip right off" ploy, as a friendly teaser--plus it takes the arrogance out of the effect.

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Ok, who want's to sell me their Chappy Brazil video or trade for something else?

anyone? anyone?
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I read something about pickpocket and always asked myself this question about the training: this is not something you can train alone like shuffling a deck or palming a coin; you need, after practicing a bit (or a lot) with a chair or a dummy, or a partner, to try it with not awarepeople, and I can figure there are not two equal bracelets, nor two identical wrists, so the first times it's normal to fail, and it's a particulary bad failure ("Hey, you're trying to take my watch!"). So, for the expert Arsène Lupin here Smile, how can someone begin to try doing pickpocket limiting this kind of embarassing situations during the first times?
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Hoelderlin,

Really, the best way to practice the watch steal is on real people, and family is usually the best place to start. This is because you can still appear to be "perfecting" the routine that you will use to cloak the ulterior motive.

Unless you really have both sides of your brain fine tuned, you will find that it is hard to concentrate on your patter and engage in the minute mechanics of the steal.

If you start with family, they usually get to see the half-hearted presentation anyway(at least, that's how it is with me), and therefore, if you decide to use a sponge ball routine (which I do) for the steal, they will just be resigned to another redundant foray into your art form.

Now, when you get caught (and you will, sometimes) by a stranger/spectator, immediately cop to the fact that you were trying to take the watch, and complement their circumspect awareness, and move on without a lot of fanfare. Trying to contrive a legitimate reason why your hand is holding their wrist and why their watch is now three rungs looser--is nearly impossible, and will just make you look bad.

If you can get a friend to don a watch, and let you mess with the true angles and pitfalls--over and over again, then you are the better for it.

Hope this helps, from a fellow watch thief,

--Ron
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i found that the most important thing in a watch steal is the time delay and the way you give it back!!
i personnaly love the way chappy brazil's mention in his video, check it out, it's a great video!
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Good point qkeli,

I have tried the "box" presentation, like the late Chappy Brazil. and it is great. My problem is remembering to have it on my person.

Gregory Wilson's "On the Spot" videos provide a card just loaded with great return lines, and predications for returning them.

Your point is superb, and arguably, most important, because a bad return can actually detract from the overall idea, and I'm glad you brought that up.

--Ron



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I love watch stealing. I can do a watch steal but my problem is not doing exactly what chappy does on his video. I really hate the new kinds of rubber buckle type watches with the big bump at the end of the strap, which:
1) makes it hard to slip the band out(the first phase) before actually unhooking it.
2) gives problem at the end when I try pull it off and it blocks it from fully coming out.
When that happens I can only get past it at the last part by doing something like the 'flip-tab' type two in the chappy brazil watch steal video. you know, the index finger push out. Also, during the first phase, I can only pull up the strap, then I use my third finger to hook it off while misdirecting with their other hand. that stinks... any advice?

Yeah, finally I also practically succeed only when I combine a spoon bend routine with it. Any tips on coins? I only succeeded once. Thanks.
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Has anyone seen Mastering the Art of Watch Stealing DVD with James Coats? Or is Chappy's the best way to go? I am just starting out on this, and am thinking of getting Greg Wilson's On the Spot in the first place for his other tricks, so should I just stick with that?

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