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Frosty Loyal user Texas 245 Posts |
Hello everyone!
I haven't done a kid show in about 20 years now (have been pitching slum magic tricks at fairs and festivals all those years LOL!) but I'm coming back to try kid shows again and maybe take a brake from the road and see what works best or just work 'em on slow times... I know this is a touchy question to some but all older posts on pricing are now too old and times and prices have changed.. so I think an update is needed and it'll help me and maybe others IMO looking to price their shows while starting out again and to see what's possible in 2020 and ahead... I recently booked my first B-day show for this coming Saturday so I've dusted off all my magic props and have been practicing again and preparing for it.. If your willing to share, please post here your pricing for B-day shows or thoughts or recommended prices and If possible a brief description of what the show consists or should consist and maybe location would also help as I believe prices might differ from place to place..! Thank you all in advance! |
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Al Kazam the Magic Man Inner circle Living in Perth Western Australia 1042 Posts |
Good luck with getting people to tell you how much they honestly charge. A lot of pricing is dependent on many factors.
Here's an idea for you that is probably the quickest way. Get your wife or somebody else to send emails to all the other local magicians or competitors in your area for their prices. If you're really up to top level performing as you've been out of the game for a long time, don't charge the full rate that other guys who've been in the trenches are charging and work from there. Just a couple of thoughts for you. Good luck. (I'm in Australia so my prices aren't relevant to you)
Magic guy in Perth Australia
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Russo Inner circle So.California / Centl.Florida / retired Florida 1165 Posts |
Its been a while - last B-day party ,for 45 minutes(not all magic) I got $125. ??????????????
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10585 Posts |
Wow, that MUST have been a while ago!
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MichaelCGM Inner circle Oklahoma City 2286 Posts |
In my area (OKC), $150 for a basic 45-minute Birthday show, with 20 or fewer kids, is about max. Mostly because part-time magicians are selling for less.
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Frosty Loyal user Texas 245 Posts |
Thanks for all your helpful responses..
Those price responses and tips were just what I was looking for to get an idea.. I've also been looking for prices locally and seems there isn't much competition here for magicians.. but prices here are all over.. Some starting at $125 while others at over $300.. but most are at around 200 bucks for B-day shows give or take.. Here's a brief description of my show: For this booking here in Texas SA I'll be performing a basic 30 min magic show with the Zombie ball for the grand finally etc.. I was thinking of bringing a chair suspension as the finally but decided not to as I really don't wanna carry all that weight LOL and just want to work off of no more than a suitcase table or two to be a quick in and out and be more efficient.. I was also asked to teach a couple of easy to do magic tricks to the kiddos.. then at the end I'll be making simple balloon figures too. (No live animals in my show).. I believe it'll take me between 45 min. to an hour in all.. I did mention to them that I hadn't performed a magic show in quite some time but was getting back into it.. which was the reason for my beginning prices. Not sure if I priced it right but I booked this show at $150 but plan to increase my show prices for future shows to $180 then to $200 then to $250 once I get better by more practice and experience and find ways to offer more value! I would of done it for free but felt I needed to give myself a starting percieved value in order to climb up the ladder for future prices but don't know.. Thank you all again! |
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Donald Dunphy Inner circle Victoria, BC, Canada 7563 Posts |
"Finally" actually should be "Finale". Just in case you decide to send out that description to customers.
Also, just my opinion, but if you are sending out trick descriptions to your customers (or publishing them on your website), do not use the actual name of the trick (zombie ball, chair suspension), because customers can look that up and discover secrets, the prices of tricks, etc. You should be able to explain a trick without using the actual name of the trick. But perhaps you were just using insider jargon on The Magic Café only. My birthday shows are in the $200-$350 CAN range, for up to 15 kids. I charge more for larger groups because my show packages include some giveaways like balloons, etc. I offer several different packages, and customers book all types of packages. I tried the $250-$400 CAN range for birthday shows in my area, but didn't hit my annual income goals. - Donald
Donald Dunphy is a Victoria Magician, British Columbia, Canada.
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10585 Posts |
If you have to use your tricks to explain your performance, you are missing the essence of being a performer. Your tricks should be secondary and are not a primary concern to purchasing parents. If you can't explain your performance without referencing your tricks or material, you need to do more work in your performance and presentation.
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Al Kazam the Magic Man Inner circle Living in Perth Western Australia 1042 Posts |
Very good advice from Mindpro. Sometimes when people ask me what kind of tricks I do, I say that my best one is that the kids are actually going to sit there and watch, and laugh their heads off until I'm finished. I very rarely tell prospects about what kind of tricks I do, and focus on how interactive the show is and how much fun the kids will have, and that I can take care of all the entertaining for them and they can concentrate on all the other things at the party without concern for the kids.
And as this is Jolly Roger's thread, he'll possibly be along soon to sell his book on how to do it.
Magic guy in Perth Australia
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Ken Northridge Inner circle Atlantic City, NJ 2392 Posts |
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On Jan 24, 2020, Al Kazam the Magic Man wrote: Not only will I honestly post my prices here, they are open and honest for anyone, any time on my web site. https://kennorthridge.com/pricing.htm I do, however, agree that pricing depends on many factors, skill level and your location being the two biggest. So, I don't think what I charge will be very much help to you. Looking back, it was trial and error for me. Make an educated guess for price and see how it goes. Listen to the reaction of the client. Your fee is not set in stone. If I can offer you this advice also: If you're just starting out include the chair suspension, balloon twisting, etc. Give your client the biggest WOW you can. Give them the biggest 'bang for the buck' you can. Later in your career you can start charging extra for these things. Good luck!
"Love is the real magic." -Doug Henning
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noland Veteran user 350 Posts |
In the Washington, DC area, I would say the upper-end of the price range for a 45 minute birthday show is around $375.
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Frosty Loyal user Texas 245 Posts |
Welp! I did the show this past Saturday and all I gots to say is geesh! I look up to all children performers.. It's not as easy as you guys make it look!
But all in all, it went well except for a couple of incidents.. It was raining so the show had to be indoors in tight spaces on the living room.. so the suspension chair was out of the show (thanks for the advice anyways on the chair suspension Ken Northridge). I performed a decent show but feel I still need way more practice as kids are a totally different breed.! I had already expected for things to not go as planned and I was right! I performed I trick where liquid is poured into a newspaper and it vanishes then its folded back up and then poured back out again from the newspaper after showing it empty.. Well let's say this trick had a leak in the secret compartment and water started pouring out onto the living room floor... Not good LOL! Other than that it all went well.. After the show I did basic balloon animals for the kiddos.. I only know 4 so I just alternated from a doggy, a sword, a hat and a rabbit.. It worked well! I charged them $150 for the show and they gave me 200 bucks! Hey! I guess I started on a good foot.. Any ways just wanted to give thanks again to all! |
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jimhlou Inner circle 3698 Posts |
I love doing shows for the youngins. My fee is $200, and the show is about 45 minutes long. The kids are totally engrossed and there's a lot of laughter. It took me a long time to get the show perfected.
I charge an extra $25 for the chair suspension, and only about one in 10 go for it, which is fine, because I'm getting too *** old to cart the thing around. PS - I'm in Kentucky |
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Dynamike Eternal Order FullTimer 24148 Posts |
I did put a higher fee in my shows this year. All my prospects feel comfortable with my higher fees. I might raise it more.
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curtgunz Special user Only 99% of users have more than 784 Posts |
This is a video I did about two years ago on the subject. Maybe it will help. [Click] Lots of videos and tips for magicians. Good luck with it all Frosty. By the way, I'm in Texas too (Tyler, Texas) Where are you?
Click for Free Resources for Performers
YouTube channel specifically for family & kids show magicians. Click -- You need to subscribe. |
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todsky Inner circle www.magicstore.ca 2354 Posts |
In Montreal (metropolis of 3 million) I charge between $200-$300 depending on travel distance, audience size, and if I add balloon animals.
Todd
Todsky's Magic Shop: over 15,000 tricks, books, DVD s and Card decks. www.magicstore.ca
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bowers Inner circle Oakboro N.C. 7024 Posts |
I usally do a 45 minute show $200.00 - $250.00
As long as the distance isn't too far for me. Then I add a little extra. Todd |
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MagicJac Regular user 166 Posts |
$285 - without animals / $365 with Bunny/ Dove -
Think if you are a professional kids magician you should be within that range, if not you are lowering the standards, think about it- each show takes about 6 hours of time. 1 hour preparation, 30 to 45 min drive - setting up another 30 mins.. show 1 hour - then loading stuff back in car 30 mins - drive back 45 mins. and unloading and resetting for next show 1 hour. Plus the 3 to 5k in equipment you are using, + 20 years of experience - Anyone that does magic for a living should not be charging less than $250. MagicJac Miami Fl. |
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MichaelCGM Inner circle Oklahoma City 2286 Posts |
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On Mar 13, 2020, MagicJac wrote: One cannot make that assertion without considering the myriad of markets that magicians face. To do so is untenable and without knowledge of actual marketing strategies. |
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Mindpro Eternal Order 10585 Posts |
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On Mar 13, 2020, MichaelCGM wrote: This is very interesting to me MagicJac, and I tend to agree. Michael, what myriad of markets that magicians face are you referring to and how is untenable? How is not having anything below the bottom range not lowering the standards? On another note kids magicians need to stop thinking only in terms of birthday parties. I work with many kids/family performers that never perform birthday parties at all and still make a decent executive living. |
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