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Bob G
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Hi folks,


Does anyone know of an easy-ish method to do what I described in my subject line? I ask partly because I love packet tricks, and partly because, for some reason, I sometimes seem to learn packet sleights more quickly than full-deck ones. So perhaps a small packet pass would be a good step toward learning a full-deck one. Also a small-packet pass could (I assume) be used as a color change, something I need for a trick I want to learn. The packet color changes I know of are either noisy or too hard for me.



I did a search and didn't find anything, but it's easy to miss things.


Thanks,


Bob
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Pugh's Pass, which is performed by Ray Kosby during "Quick 3 way" on issue 31 of Reel Magic
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You may want to look into Lee Asher's Asher Twist. The linked video teaches an entire trick, but the move involved sounds like part of what you're looking for.

https://www.leeasher.com/store/asher-twi......rial.php
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Thanks, mantel and Sean. I'll look into these.


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Sean, thanks for the link.
I see some other items in the store that are intriguing and tempting too... and I am trying to save $. Smile
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I'm with you, Wravyn. Naturally I appreciate people's suggestions, but I'm always hoping that they happen to mention something that I already own!
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Bob Farmer has a couple of sleights that may serve your needs. The first appears to be turning over the packet. The second appears to be a twisting action of the packet. These are, in order, Turnantula and Squist.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
Bob G
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Thanks so much, Jon. I always appreciate hearing your ideas. Do you know how hard these sleights are? I seem to learn so slowly... I have one full-deck DL that's in pretty good shape, and my EC is close to being performance-ready (though today I was all thumbs again -- hopefully that won't persist). That's just to give you an idea of where I (still) am.


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Hello all,
I too have my eye on Turnantula. I too am curious on how others would rate the difficulty of the sleight. I can do the standard packet counts: EC, JC, Omega, if you want to use them as a comparison scale for difficulty.
Thanks for any input!

Phil
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Phil-
I just bought Tunantula, it's very easy to do to a base level, it's devilishly hard to get the move to look like the videos.
I would love some performance videos if anybody knows of some.
For the number of hours you'll practice it, $20 turns out to be less than $1/hr

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Gordon Bruce has a beauty of a half-pass alternative in Pabular. I can't give an exact reference at present, but it's definitely worth seeking out. Completely invisible, even in my hands!
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Interesting... Please let me know if you discover the reference, ajb.
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Sounds like maybe Gordon Bruce's handling of the Larry Jennings's Larreverse? I know that move is in Card College Vol. 4, and Jason England briefly teaches it as part of his Twisting the Aces handling in his At the Table Live Lecture.
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Thanks, Curtis. I'll look these up.


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The Gordon Bruce move can be found in Scotland Up Close by Peter Duffie under the title 'Packet Reversal'.

I know it's definitely in Pabular as well, as that is where I learnt it from, but I don't have my Pabular books to hand at the moment.
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That's helpful, ajb. Scotland up close is available as an ebook.


Bob
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