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PendletonThe3rd Special user 973 Posts |
I passed up an opportunity to get one the other day. While I really want this, it did seem a little silly to buy it now while in quarantine. Might as well wait.
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emyers99 Inner circle Columbus, Ohio 4741 Posts |
Got mine a few weeks ago. Incredibly well made and heavy. So glad it’s made of stainless and won’t rust. The locking mechanism is incredible and I’m still not sure how it works. Have performed it five times and it gets good reactions. It’s just too quick to be a show piece. That and the inability to quickly reset are the only downsides.
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Tyler Lunsford Regular user USA 131 Posts |
Hey everyone!
Here is my review of Metal Phone, feel free to check it out if you would like to! https://youtu.be/x0VcYqat4iI Hope it helps! Tyler |
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Joao Miranda Elite user Portugal 441 Posts |
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On Apr 17, 2020, Tyler Lunsford wrote: Thanks for the review. Less than 15 units are now available for the July Batch. |
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magicnorm Special user 509 Posts |
Joao are the April batches still being sent?
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Joao Miranda Elite user Portugal 441 Posts |
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On Apr 18, 2020, magicnorm wrote: Yes. All will be shipped until Friday. There are about 50 left to ship. |
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Magic KL Inner circle 2564 Posts |
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On Apr 17, 2020, Tyler Lunsford wrote: Thank you for the review, Tyler! Appreciate your time and effort in making these videos. |
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Tyler Lunsford Regular user USA 131 Posts |
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On Apr 18, 2020, Magic KL wrote: Thank you for the kind words, I always enjoy being able to help the magic community where I can. Glad you enjoy the reviews! Tyler |
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videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
Ekaterina mentioned this as possible trick of the year. I have to disagree. I don't mean to sound like a hater because I'm not but sorry, I just can't see that. Gimmick of the year maybe. I think magicians just can't see this as it really is becuse they are so overwhelmed and enamoured by the beauty of the gimmick. And it is a beauty no doubt. An absolute stunner!!! Tyler just keeps going back to how beautiful the gimmick is, (BTW, do youtube reviewers get paid by the number of words per minute?) but that doesn't make it an incredible effect. You have to be able to separate the gorgeous gimmick from the effect just as a spectator would.
The effect itself is not TOTY material IMO. Take away this masterful gimmick and it's a so so effect. It's not even a new effect. It's a new gimmick for a rather old effect. The only thing new it brings to the table is that it can be completely examinable (with the price being a more tedious reset). But I always felt like Industrial Revolution was completely examinable. But to be honest, that isn't such a great effect either. Neither of them are bad effects, they're just not great effects. But IR won trick of the year because everyone fell in love with that gimmick too. I'll be curious how many people are still performing this a year or two from now when running the smooth curves of the stainless steel through their hands no longer brings them to near orgasm. And the reality of the size and weight of it in their pocket along with mostly mediocre reactions means it stays at home in the drawer more and more. Without a doubt that I want to run that gorgeous hunk of metal through my hands too. It takes all the willpower I can muster to hold off on buying it just to own such a beautiful and sexy prop. But I know from IR that the newness wears off over time and barring an ocassional exception it never quite gets the reactions you thought it would. Maybe we need to start a new category for gimmick of the year? |
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Joao Miranda Elite user Portugal 441 Posts |
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On Apr 17, 2020, emyers99 wrote: You will see that with practice the reset time will be much faster. Now I can reset it in less than 20 seconds which is ok. |
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Joao Miranda Elite user Portugal 441 Posts |
Only 8 phones are left from the July Batch.
We don’t know when more will be produced as we have more projects to make. You can order here: http://www.joaomiranda.com/store/index.p......t_id=130 |
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coops New user 97 Posts |
What is the size of the metal phone please?
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Tyler Lunsford Regular user USA 131 Posts |
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On Apr 19, 2020, coops wrote: I’d say it’s most similar to an iPhone X in size 🙂 |
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coops New user 97 Posts |
Thanks Tyler
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kissdadookie Inner circle 4275 Posts |
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On Mar 13, 2020, Kaliix wrote: Actually, I think you have made a great point. If this was designed simply as a metal block WITHOUT the camera bump, this might actually make it less of an odd object. Like the entirety of the oddness of the object to me is mainly due to it having that camera bump. Like if you wanted to sell the idea that it's just a simple metal block, why would the metal block have a faux camera bump with rivets in it? It wouldn't be anywhere near as odd if it was just shaped to the outline/shape of the case. The bump adds to the oddness of the object by quite a bit imo. Here's an idea. What if this thing used a FOLIO style phone case with a cover? Remove the the camera bump. Do the penetration from the front cover (thus the camera hole never gets seen). The premise and presentation would be the same as IR and the classic matchbox penetration. Problems with the current Metal Phone would be solved (though I'm guessing one of the reasons the metal phone uses the camera bump with rivets is that the rivet screws is the locking mechanism activation). This is possibly my biggest personal issue with Metal Phone, the engineering appears to be great but the focus was entirely on the engineering rather than the effect itself. The engineering in this case also seems to weaken the base effect and unfortunately I don't think using the argument of "well, you can negate the negatives with presentation!" is a good argument since at that point you're kind of trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. |
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videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
I think the screws in the camera bump are there to take the heat off the bottom screws which I believe are the actual locking screws. So it may not be as deceptive if the camera were removed.
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kissdadookie Inner circle 4275 Posts |
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On Apr 20, 2020, videoman wrote: Think about that... taking heat off the bottom screws... if this was as simple as "it's just a piece of metal that isn't suspicious at all!" why then would there be need to take heat off of screws? Perhaps it's suspicious for a simple block of metal to have screws at all to begin with? There's just so many things here which imo makes the spectator/audience want to fiddle with the object because they are drawn to it subconsciously/consciously due to specific characteristics of it. Even if they would never be able to figure out how to unlock the thing, it doesn't mean they are fooled simply because they can't figure out how to get the hidden opening to open. :: shrugs :: |
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videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
I agree. That is why I prefer the trade off of IR. It's as examinable as it needs to be without looking engineered, just a hunk of steel. Even though in Kaliix's opinion, because it fits in the card box it must appear engineered to spectators, I haven't found that to be the case at all. It's perfectly plausible that you could find a block of steel that would fit in a card box, or easily have one cut. Specs don't think about it that deeply because there is no reason to. But the screws may draw some attention. It's obvious that someone went to considerable effort to make a phone shaped out of metal.
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kissdadookie Inner circle 4275 Posts |
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On Apr 20, 2020, videoman wrote: I think that's what is sometimes getting ignored by inventors and creators of magic props. Yes, we love toys and how aesthetically pleasing they look and feel, however there's also what ultimately benefits the effect to consider. If we talk about coins, exotic coins are believable as being non-gaffed due to people having a understanding that coins are not only currency but we also have things like commemorative coins, novelty coins, souvenir coins, etc. Cards are easy to sell when people are able to handle the cards as paper cards are paper cards. Regular every day objects needs to be believable as every day objects by them being a match for the real thing and being examinable or if you can employ an incredibly deceptive switch. Then you have things like IR, matchbox penetration, and now metal phone for which there really is no point for the object to be very sleek and attractive since what you are really trying to sell here is that this is a plain ole hunk of metal. |
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Kaliix Inner circle Connecticut 1984 Posts |
If I did the trick, the metal screws that look like the camera would not be a concern.
A good plot or story will make suspicions like that irrelevant. Here is my attempt inspired by Ekaterina: I would do Metal phone like this. Reach into my inside jacket pocket to activate a phone sound from my phone while pulling out the metal phone in front of it. Pretend to turn on the camera light (Optix) then say oh, sorry, I wanted to show this new security feature on my smartphone. If you find yourself in a bad situation like you're being robbed and forced to give up your credit card, wallet and phone (meanwhile ditching Optix and retrieving a credit card). Take out your credit card and tell them to this is the one linked to your phone. (Now in a slightly hushed tone like your about to spill the secret) While you're doing that, just casually slide the card through the security slit on the back of the case. This will not only deactivate your card but it will brick your phone, making it useless to the thief (magician drops Metal phone onto the table on the word thief). Everything now has logic and reason. The phone now appears real with sound and light convincers. The slit now has a purpose, as does the item you are sliding through, because everyone appreciates the annoyance of credit card fraud and would empathize. The phone turning to into metal now has a bonafide reason, to make the phone inoperable and outsmart the thief. Miracle... IMHO, YMMV
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge.
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