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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Https://www.apple.com/covid19/mobility
how is your area doing?
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Away in the distance, there is a blue flashing light; that is all that is doing in our area tonight.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
Ambulance sirens day and night here in Brooklyn. The local schoolyard, with playground equipment and a track, now locked.
Not many on the streets; about half of them in masks, half who don't seem to care. The air markedly cleaner and easier to breathe as if I were up in the country in the woods. Classes, meetings, and dinners on Zoom. Cars on the street permanently parked--everyone afraid that if they move them, they won't get their spot on the street back.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
The post is slow; like a week or so slow.
We have some copper gloves; they say they kill the virus. Perhaps we ought to suck pennies.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
You've still got pennies left? We had an astronomical grocery bill this week.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Are prices going up more than normal?
They say the economy here will be hit 35% - the worst hit since world war II.
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
It's not really price gouging, but if you figure in buying more than the usual number of available items to stock up, tips for delivery people, and the inevitable higher prices for key items, it adds up.
I can't imagine how people whose regular income has been interrupted have been managing.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
We are just shopping normally, as we need it, as opposed to stockpiling. We could, as for the bar, we have wholesale accounts. We help each other; friends and family grab each other stuff. The food shops now are not far off normal in our area. Last week it was not so good.
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts |
Here's, I think, a very significant reason the death toll is so high in the elderly:
"Nearly half of the COVID-19 deaths in Canada are associated with long-term care homes. Most long-term care deaths in Ontario have occurred in the homes, and not in nearby hospitals...." "Advocates say transfers from long-term care homes are extremely rare, in what appears to be a widespread, but informal, practice by some homes and health systems in the province. The practice, say advocates, is both discriminatory and likely making the pandemic worse. "Informal no-transfer practices are putting extra pressure on the most understaffed and chronically underfunded sector of Ontario’s health system at a time when many hospitals, which have stopped non-essential procedures, have low occupancy rates and remain relatively quiet while they wait for a surge of expected COVID-19 patients." https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-new......vocates/ https://abcnews.go.com/Health/nursing-ho......69944226 |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
It is so high because they have a secondary health concern. Not tough to figure.
It is probable that if they got the regular seasonal flu they would have also died. Or any respiratory infection would have probably killed them.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts |
"there are some concerns about blanket policies or misinterpreted messaging that could prevent long-term-care patients from being transferred to hospitals when resources become strained — a worry reflected by an Ontario Medical Association position statement circulated to members on Monday, which recommended against such blanket policies.
"At least one long-term-care physician in Toronto has seen a patient denied the hospital care they were seeking. “'I’ve had one patient go to the hospital and was just told directly that they would not be offered a ventilator,' said Dr. Pamela Liao, a family doctor who specializes in geriatrics and palliative medicine and works in several Toronto-area retirement homes. "Liao is now treating this patient in the community but with 'a fraction of the resources that they would have if they were in acute care.' She points out that in long-term-care facilities, there might be one registered practical nurse responsible for 25 to 30 patients; in an ICU, the nurse-to-patient ratio might be one to one." https://www.toronto.com/news-story/99524......ave-two/ |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
It is the same story in the UK more or less.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/a......ath-toll Over here they do not count.
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts |
"Inmate dies as COVID-19 outbreak at Mission Institution tops 60"
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/inmate-dies.......4899135 |
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
Both inmates and Dept of Corrections personnel have died. It is an explosive situation that needs remedying.
My only agenda here is that we don't forget the people in prisons. It is easy enough to do.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Jails everywhere are horribly overcrowded and unsanitary. All sentences could be cut in half.
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Tommy |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On Apr 16, 2020, landmark wrote: It sure does need to be considered and remedied .
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
What real evidence do we have that the lockdown is stopping the virus spreading or slowing it down?
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
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On Apr 18, 2020, tommy wrote: I have to admit, I've asked myself the same question. In theory, it sounds like it should make a difference; the question is whether it actually does. The way I see it, the following are the major different assumptions I can imagine people might make: 1) The assumption that the virus is spread primarily by person to person contact is correct, and thus social distancing works. 2) The assumption that the virus is spread primarily through person to person contact is correct, but true social distancing is impossible--people break quarantine, and there's no way to actually cut oneself off entirely from the world--food, mail, medical considerations won't allow it. Therefore social distancing is an illusion, a waste of time and effort. 3) The assumption that the virus is spread primarily by person to person contact is correct, but social distancing may actually slow down the acquisition of personal and herd immunity, and thus have the opposite of its intended effect. 4) The assumption that the virus is spread primarily by person to person contact is correct, but the fatality rates are overestimated, so it's not really a danger, and we should just carry on as if it were the flu. 5) The assumption that the virus is spread primarily by person to person contact is correct, and while the number of people dying may be much in excess of the normal flu, we will just have to sacrifice some people in order to keep the economy running. 6) The assumption that the virus does not spread primarily through person to person contact, so social distancing is worthless. Personally, I think the scientific evidence is overwhelmingly against #6. It's clear the virus, like most flu-like viruses, is transmitted primarily through person to person contact, and it's happening on a major scale. I find the position in #5 morally repugnant. #2 may be true, but we shouldn't be thinking all or nothing--if social distancing provides some measure of protection, then we shouldn't be abandoning because it isn't perfect. I'm not convinced at all that #4 is true. The number of excess deaths is real--the funeral directors and hospitals have confirmed that. If it were just a matter of calling normal deaths corona deaths the numbers of actual deaths would still be the same--but they are not. There are many excess deaths happening per day, and they have to have come from somewhere. #3 is the one I worry about most. It seems that several countries which had gotten their numbers down, are now experiencing a new wave of infections. Would it have been better to have let more people become infected so that there was more immunity in the population. I don't know. The two big risks there are a) nobody really knows if immunity is gained from prior infection; b) if you don't social distance in the first round, will the first swath of deaths outweigh any later lessening of deaths gained from possible immunity? Finally #1. Does social distancing work? I look on with great, great skepticism any "official" numbers that come out of any government. But even given that all govts lie, it appears that the social distancing measures taken in China and South Korea seem to be working for now. The numbers of deaths have gone down--probably not as much as the govts claim, but they have gone down. You can't keep hiding bodies; if nothing had been working, then the death rate at this point would be so extreme that govt officials would be dropping like flies and you can't hide that. So I assume that social distancing works. But for how long? And will its benefits be permanent? It should also be pointed out that where social distancing works it has been accompanied by widespread testing and strong contract tracing measures. Whether social distancing works without those follow up measures is a real question to me.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
I assume the virus spread far too widely before the lockdown to have any real effect. I think more than half the population have already had the virus here. I think I had it in January, either that or the flu. In Italy, the first to die were two Chinese tourists; just two people say spread all that in Italy very quickly. 2,4,6,8 who do you appreciate every other day. At that rate, it soon reaches millions and millions. Then they say we better have a lockdown. Then they say look the numbers are going doing down so the lockdown must be working. But the numbers would go down naturally anyway after half have had it.
As for the economy, how many people did the Great Depression kill?
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On Apr 18, 2020, tommy wrote: The other end of this questionis how long do we hide from it? Heard immunity is needed. We can't live in caves in fear forever.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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