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Nat Special user 566 Posts |
Please suggest "easiest to read" marked decks -- as a senior hobbyist, my eyesight isn't what it use to be...thanks.
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Jxb1989 New user USA 49 Posts |
Penguin marked decks. There are 6 different sets of very visible markings. A mixture of the wild/Lesley/gt style systems ...plus a brick for 60.00 shipped. Cannot beat it
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Poof-Daddy Inner circle Considering Stopping At Exactly 5313 Posts |
Phoenix Marked Decks are great and easy to read even with my bad eyesight. DMC are kind of easy once you know where and how to read them, pretty straight forward. Henry Evans "Daredevil Deck" by Card-Shark (Phoenix) are the absolute easiest to read (and yes, I have had them fly right past spectators before.
Boris Wild can be a bit tricky both in (mandolin or maiden. whichever Bike Back he uses now) and the Phoenix Boris Wilds are the same as the Bikes.
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CopperChopCup Loyal user 213 Posts |
Check out Kevin Reyleks work on this with his Mainframe booklet. Very easy to read.
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thegreatscungilli Regular user 166 Posts |
If you are looking for reader decks, I would second the vote for the Penguin Decks..good quality and a good price plus you get video downloads with a couple of decent routines and they come in both blue and red. I am not sure if you are used to working with this kind of deck but you might have to be a bit more subtle in your handling with these so as not to "tip the gaffe" since there are more possibilities to have a spectator spot them.
Also, second the vote for DMC's these are one of my favorites and my go to decks if I think it might be an audience that would be burning my hands...very hard for a spectator to pick up but easy to read once you get used to them. If you do not want a reader deck then the Butterfly deck by Ondrej Psenicka is very good. Not a reader deck so they take some practice but they have some advantages in how they are done...and they are one way as well..I would say these would be about impossible for a spectator to spot even if they handled the deck. They MIGHT spot the one way design if they thought about it. One last thought, you can use some special stuff that is available and make your own..it works best with Bee design decks but will work with Bikes as well..if you do it right it can can be seen from quite a distance, about impossible for spectator to spot but easy for you...since you know exactly where and what to look for..takes some practice to get it right though..you'll probably ruin a couple of decks before you get a good one. Advantage is that you can make it as big or as small as you personally need it to be. You can buy decks from a couple of suppliers that are ready made this way, but they are expensive...$50.00 per deck for Bees and $45 for Bikes but you can see them from as much as 15 feet away and they are examinable. PM me if you want more info. |
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whiteoakcanyon Special user 899 Posts |
I also have a difficult time reading marked decks. The DMC decks are the ones I use now and highly recommend them.
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EndersGame Inner circle Reviewer EndersGame 2196 Posts |
As far as reader style marked decks go, I also recommend:
- marked Maiden Back decks (from Penguin) - DMC Elites For some more suggestions, see some of the coverage in this article, which includes details about both of the aforementioned decks as well. 7 Top Marked Decks https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......c=713303 |
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TH10111 Regular user 155 Posts |
Diamond Jim Tyler's deck also has a great marking system: http://djtyler.com/product/diamond-playing-cards/
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EndersGame Inner circle Reviewer EndersGame 2196 Posts |
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On May 8, 2020, TH10111 wrote: Oh, that is really clever - what a great reader system that is beautifully incorporated into the design. (Nine of Diamonds, King of Hearts, Ace of Spades) Thanks for making me aware of this deck! |
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magicwiia Regular user 120 Posts |
I have the DMC Elite and would recommend it. Diamond Jim Taylor's deck is very clever.
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Nikodemus Inner circle 1140 Posts |
I have poor eyesight (even with glasses/contacts). I reviewed about 6 decks quite recently here on the Café. For me the Penguin deck was the clear winner for two reasons
(1) Easy to read (2) MUCH cheaper than DMC which were the only others I quite liked. FYI- the marks on Jim Taylor deck were MUCH too small for me. Shame, because it is a brilliant design. |
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EndersGame Inner circle Reviewer EndersGame 2196 Posts |
For the record, it's Diamond Jim Tyler, not Taylor.
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rrubin98 Veteran user Cogito, ergo sum scripsit 357 Posts |
Another vote here for the DMC Elites (as long as you're not performing for magicians/mentalists, who will likely recognize this deck).
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Haruspex New user 62 Posts |
As far as readability goes Henry Evans's Daredevil Deck is one of the clearest on the market.
Personally I find the markings far to obvious, but they may work in certain effects. Click here to view attached image. |
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peppermeat2000 Elite user 428 Posts |
Once I get used to the markings of ANY marked deck, I begin to feel insecure in that they are too obvious. fortunately I perform often using a marked deck ( I have used every deck mentioned above) and have never been "caught". The thing is that many lay-folk will automatically cite a marked deck as being in play even when the magician is using a normal one. This used to make me feel guilty and I would do my best to quickly ditch my marked deck once the assumption was blurted out.
I sometimes reply to the marked deck comment by agreeing with the spectator in that magicians used to use marked cards the same way gamblers did. However, it is now punishable by law if you are in possession of a marked deck whether a gambler or magician...it's funny how many people will nod their heads in agreement as if they already knew this "fact". As far as my go to marked deck...I gotta say DMC has been my go to. Lighting at gigs can always be unpredictable. DMC has been the most reliable in MOST low-light settings. |
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Poof-Daddy Inner circle Considering Stopping At Exactly 5313 Posts |
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On Jan 5, 2021, Haruspex wrote: They work well if you do not draw attention to them. I performed 3 effects at a magic meeting (when they first came out) and no one said anything (these guys are always quick to call you out). I told one of my buddies what I had done and he couldn’t believe how easy they were once I showed him, so I did a card effect the next week with them and no one noticed again (my friend even told me he struggled to see the marks even though he couldn’t “un-see” them a month earlier. With any marked or gaffed deck, presentation is the key. If you do not act like the cards are “carrying the water”, they won’t suspect it.
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michaelpenkul New user Toronto Canada 78 Posts |
I agree with the boys above, why run if you're not being chased? The audience expects it to be a normal deck, and won't think otherwise until you give them a reason to. The most deceptive way to use marked decks in my opinion is to use the markings sparingly and not rely on them too much in your presentation. I mark my own cards, and in performance, I will do many tricks that don't involve the markings at all, because if you're relying on it less, the spectators are less likely to resort to that as a solution. Then when you do drop a trick that uses the markings, the spectators are floored. On top of that, it's a great tool to use whenever a heckler will grab a card and try to challenge you.
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Haruspex New user 62 Posts |
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On Jan 10, 2021, Poof-Daddy wrote: I agree that very often any type of marking will fly by perfectly. The reason why I find these to obvious is the result of the first time I saw them. I first saw this deck when someone was doing an effect with it. I wasn't following the effect but just walked by and looked over at some cards lying on the table and the markings just jumped out to me. The fact that I saw the marking when just glancing over and seeing a couple of cards lying face down on the table, made me couscous. Of course as you mention above, all depends on circumstances, you may notice them today and not notice next month. I just don't share the assumption that nobody will notice, as some magicians state. Sometimes people just see the marks without looking for them. Unless you are performing an effect which ( due to presentation or otherwise) cannot be explained by the use of marked cards or effects where not many cards are left out on the table, open for inspection ( as is the case in many gambling demonstrations), I would choose a more subtle system. |
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livejeh New user 50 Posts |
Plus one for Penguins deck. They are good quality and very easy to read!
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Rodeo New user BC, Canada 51 Posts |
Another vote for Penguin's. Plus you have the option of back colour, regular or jumbo index, and are very cost effective (only $5/deck if you buy a brick).
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