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I've pondered a bit more.

I think Jon's "playful:" approach (including the suits) is the least suspicious, as you end up with a third pile that is a more random number.
From here you can proceed to select one pile, which is the TOO approach.
Or you could just gather the three piles together, and go into T&S.

I also re-watched the TOO video. Allan does not go through every scenario. He covers a few, then says you can figure the rest out for yourself. He does not cover what I consider to be the worst case scenario.
This is when you guess the pile wrong, and there are none of the relevant cards present. This means you have already failed once, and you have no information about the suit/colour. Yes you could use verbal fishing. But I think this would be a good situation to gather up the other two piles (maybe ask spec to shuffle them), look through and remove a prediction.
Then you can finish off by asking them to find their card.

There might be other scenarios where you would want to do similar.

So basically you can "jazz" your way through, with various gambits to draw on. The key point being there is no "rule" that forbids you picking up any of the cards, and proceeding as you please.
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I haven't actually seen the TOO video. I read it in Genii. I'll go back and see if he covers that worst case scenario there.

EDIT: He doesn't cover that scenario there either. Seems an odd omission. Oh well!
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I came across another version of this. It's called You Think of a Card by Tom Craven. It's a bit more direct than the other versions and has a couple of touches that are different to the others. I'm not saying they make it better or worse but it's just more ideas for the pot and some may like them. For example, he suggests using a red deck. You cut a portion off the top of the deck and spread it face up on the table (which allows you to get the information you need) and then you say "You picked a red card". If the spectator says "No" then you turn the cards over and say something like "I was talking about the backs". If using a blue deck, then you say "You didn't pick a red card". If they say "Yes I did" then you do the same thing - turn them over and show that they are all blue.

While reading this trick, another thought occurred to me (which isn't in this trick but follows on from it in the way it plays out). Once you've narrowed it down to two possible cards you could palm off the most likely possibility. Then hand the deck to the spectator and ask them to look through the deck, take out their card and put it face down on the table (as in AK47 and TAS). If they find their card then you name it. If they don't find their card then you take it out of your pocket.

(I have AK47 and TOO but not TAS so I don't fully know what the procedure is in that one)
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