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dyoung Special user 898 Posts 
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I find this thread fascinating. And I really admire Chatelain's work here, he is a very clever man. I have no interest in exposing it for others (in fact I don't even know for sure that Im correct, but this is a great example of how as magicians we can get trapped in certain ways of thinking, because it looks like a couple of things that we are familiar with.
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MadisonH Inner circle 1754 Posts
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I think the demo was filmed with the best outcome so that there are no discrepancies. I think in real performances, there will be a slight discrepancy and a limit with how many cards can be passed before they say stop.
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rowdymagi5 Inner circle Virginia 3624 Posts
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On Apr 11, 2020, MadisonH wrote: I agree! Too many cards dealt before they say stop will NOT be good. |
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AndrewI Regular user 154 Posts
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On Apr 12, 2020, MadisonH wrote: That would be disappointing if true, but would certainly make sense! |
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RNK Inner circle 7527 Posts
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I too do not think the force card is on the bottom.
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pegasus Eternal Order United Kingdom 10537 Posts
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On Apr 11, 2020, MadisonH wrote: No I’m not having that. Murphy’s would’ve mentioned it in the add. 
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Gaz Lawrence Inner circle 5991 Posts
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Thanks Madison , well that makes it a completely different ball game to speculate on .
The goal posts have been moved a lot imho if that’s the case Gaz 🙂 |
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goldeneye007 Inner circle London 2429 Posts
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I also doubt that. Sure you probably should avoid having just a few cards dealt or the whole deck dealt but in between (so say 5 cards to 47 cards) I would assume it doesn’t really make a difference. But hey maybe I’m wrong of course.
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts
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Looks good, don't think it needs the card prediction in the box though...
If the force is different every time, then you could just write with frixion markers on any note you want and use a blank faced pop eyed popper... That's not the method for this though, just what I'd possibly do...
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tomdeg Veteran user 303 Posts
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So, ad copy says... "Challenge: Can you figure this out?"
Yet we shouldn't discuss methods? I still say there is a magnet involved. |
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252life Inner circle Ninth Circle, Hades 3253 Posts
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This one has me curious. I thought I had it nailed down until I re watched the clip. Really nice regardless and I'm looking forward to hearing more.
Look for all the world like you're counting the brain cells in his cranium.
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gassaox Veteran user 316 Posts
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Reminds me of the old wallet trick where you place your wallet on the selected card
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts
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Though I don't think it is, I would like some kind of foldable card gimmick that you can load on top...then everything else is ungimmicked...
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goldeneye007 Inner circle London 2429 Posts
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On Apr 11, 2020, tomdeg wrote: There's often a magnet involved with Mickael 
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tomdeg Veteran user 303 Posts
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I think you have to deal past the selection, then the cards dealt over it are picked up beneath the bill.
As someone said previously, you're seeing "best case" scenario. All it takes is S**M card dealt onto selection, then M****T in bottom of deck. |
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trickiewillie Regular user Virginia 128 Posts
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I remember Penn and Teller teaching this using an envelope to drop on top of the cards. I suspect a lot of people know that method. And if the spectator thinks she knows how it works, well that's how it works (in her mind).
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252life Inner circle Ninth Circle, Hades 3253 Posts
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Could say that about anything though
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goldeneye007 Inner circle London 2429 Posts
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On Apr 11, 2020, tomdeg wrote: If it's really that your range is quite narrow, hoping it's something else |
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MadisonH Inner circle 1754 Posts
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I predict people will buy this and be very disappointed. I have a feeling it will be no James Bond style gimmick this time. An effective method which will look virtually identical to the trailer, but not as “fun” as everyone’s hoping.
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goldeneye007 Inner circle London 2429 Posts
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On Apr 11, 2020, Darth_Prime wrote: So by the way? It matches? Could be "best case scenario" though |
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