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After searching , many people have mentioned that the sounds are different , brass sounds better.

Beside the sound , is there any other difference between them ?
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The look of the metal, obviously. Many seem to prefer copper over brass in this regard, especially as it patinas from a shiny orange to a soft mocha brown.
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Yes, copper looks much better as it ages naturally.
unless you like that shiny brass look, which I do not.

also most brass cups seem to be CNC made instead of spun.
A quality spun cups just feels better in terms of weight, balance, etc.

spun cups have nicer beads IMO, as well. CNC is sorta faking it to make it look like a spun cup. Hand Crafted Magic
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Brass is made from copper and zinc and/or other elements. The zinc lightens the color. RNT2 brass cups in the Monti and Paul Fox lines were spun while the Foxy I and Foxy II lines were CNC. Sherwood brass cups are spun. CNC cups are almost always heavier. Joe Porper cups were of the CNC variety as well.
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Correct me if I’m wrong but wouldn’t CNC made cups be stronger than spun cups?
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On Apr 19, 2020, MagicVin wrote:
Correct me if I’m wrong but wouldn’t CNC made cups be stronger than spun cups?

I don't believe that is necessarily true. A spun cup will give the same wall thickness, approx., through the entire cup. That can be achieved by CNC as well. Where the difference and strength come into play would be like with the 1000-G cups, other than the 303 stainless that they are made with, I was able to beef up the top crown of the cup so that when I hit it, it will not collapse or flatten out. If you have every had a problem with a ball not staying on the top of a cup, you'll understand. I also made the beads solid so that, not only will the cup keep shape, even when dropped, the beads will not collapse over time and the inside of the cup keeps its shape as well. That has been an issue in just about every copper cup that I own, including my Sherwoods.
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Most copper cups are not copper. Most of them are made of a bronze alloy of some kind. Just like the old-fashined copper pennies, which are actually bronze.

Spun brass has a tendency to split if it is not annealed properly. Bronze is more forgiving. If you have pure copper cups, they will probably be fairly soft.

When copper or bronze is spun, the metal does have a tendency to stretch a little, producing some spots that can be slightly thinner than the rest of the object.
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