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Disc 5 for anybody that cares. 🙂. If you're not familiar w/ VCS then you should care with the best of em'. 🤘👍🙂
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Thanks, Dollarbill! I'm pretty sure I have Disk 5. I'll take a look. I imagine it's in this hat: Smile


By the way, your help with Color Monte a couple (?) of years ago made a big difference. I was performing it successfully for a while. Time to bring it back up to speed.



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I carry Color Monte and VCS. in my TCC packet wallet. TCC wallet. One of the bst $4 bucks ever spent.🙂
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Did you buy the wallet recently? I couldn't find it at anywhere near that price.
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On Oct 10, 2020, Bob G wrote:
Did you buy the wallet recently? I couldn't find it at anywhere near that price.


Out of stock but:

https://www.penguinmagic.com/p/10040
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Thanks, $bill. I saw that. Ah well...
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On Apr 25, 2020, Bob G wrote:
I'm looking for suggestions for short sets of packet tricks that could be routined together so that by the end of the *last* trick the cards could be examined.


Have you found a solution to allow your favorite Color Monte to be examinable at the end?

If you want to connect the 1st packet trick (gaffed) to the 2nd packet trick (examinable), then the 10-Card Poker Deal is probably a good choice.

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Hi Sam,


Color Monte isn't a problem, as the cards can be examined at the end of the trick. But maybe you were thinking of another trick?


Thanks for the video; I'll take a look.
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On Oct 15, 2020, Bob G wrote:
But maybe you were thinking of another trick?


Hi Bob, I thought you talked about the "Chase-the-Queen" kind of Monte routine. Maybe your Color Monte is a different kind of Monte. I don't know many packet tricks, other than Gary Ouellet's handling of McDonald's Aces and Max Maven's B'Wave and its variations.

Naturally, packet tricks with gaff cards are not intended to be immediately examined by the spectator, at least not without ditching, switching, or destroying. If the design of gaff cards were intended to be examined, then Houdini would have invited the spectators to examine his Substitution Trunk. Moreover, I have never seen any Quick Change Artists allow the spectators to examine their masks or costumes. Nevertheless, many people still enjoy watching the "magical" Quick Change effects, repeatedly.

On the psychological aspect, do you really think that the spectator's magical experience would be significantly enhanced after physically confirming that the props are "clean"? Subconsciously believing and consciously confirming are two different things!

I would not want the spectator to examine my Magic Hat. Smile
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'On the psychological aspect, do you really think that the spectator's magical experience would be significantly enhanced after physically confirming that the props are "clean"?'

Good question, Sam. I don't have enough performance experience to know the answer for me, and I imagine the answer varies from person to person. My instinct is that (1) there's no need to hand out props for examination unless a spectator asks for it, and (2) The trick loses some of its punch if someone *does* ask to examine and the magician refuses.


Color Monte is a delightful trick. It's a form of 3-card monte that comes with a nice story. (Though I've changed the story somewhat.) Perhaps others who know a lot of 3-card monte tricks can tell us what makes Color Monte different from other 3-card monte tricks. One obvious difference is that the cards are specially made Bicycles with big metallic red and blue diamonds on the faces. Some people prefer to do the trick with ordinary cards; I enjoy the diamonds that come with the trick.
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P. S. Oooh, I *really* want to see what's in that hat...
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On Oct 14, 2020, Bob G wrote:
P. S. Oooh, I *really* want to see what's in that hat...

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Please continue, Proximo. Smile You knew he was going to grab the cards, so what did you do? Or, in retrospect, what *would* you have done?


Bob


hahaha! Bob, it doesn't matter what the spec grabs at the 3rd phase. The dirty work is done! VCS is a killer! Michael Ammar teaches it on his ETMCM. I can remember what disc it is on. Maybe #3. Super easy and a mind baffler!


Sorry, late reply.
Indeed, the effect basically is over at the 3rd phase.
So, I actually was kinda hoping that the spectator would grab the cards, seeing as how he really was sceptical about everything. Needless to say, It went over very well!

Very powerfull effect indeed!
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On Oct 15, 2020, Bob G wrote:
The trick loses some of its punch if someone *does* ask to examine and the magician refuses.


My philosophy is simple: Always do a packet-to-deck switch so that it ends clean in the eyes of the spectator.

So long as the magician continues after the end of the routine, the spectator doesn't know the transient state from Routine #1 to Routine #2.

If the spectator really interrupts the magician to ask for examination, the magician can respond:

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and then proceed to do a packet-to-deck switch, ditching the dirty cards in the pocket and taking out the cold deck, followed by showing the clean cards that have the same values and suits as the dirty cards. Continue with the "Pick a card... any card" routine that requires a full deck.
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On Oct 15, 2020, Bob G wrote:
P. S. Oooh, I *really* want to see what's in that hat...


Isn't it too obvious that a magical Smile in my hat?
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