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Marco S. Inner circle 1017 Posts |
We all know that David Copperfield is a brilliant stage magician. But what about his skill as a cardician?
Just wondered if anybody knows what his abilities are and how you would rate him as compared to people like Daryl, Ortiz, Hollingworth, etc. Any comments would be appreciated. |
MrBiddle Loyal user 239 Posts |
Its hard to compare magicians based on "technique"...... but DC is good...... even if you ask a member on this board called Dougini who worked for DC once.
Check out his "Dream Of Aces" (grampa's aces) routine. It will show you how masterful dc is at the pasteboards as well. The routine has Piet Forton's Hiphop Popout move (that even seasoned prestigitators still have difficulty doing) and some color changes, etc.
I would, however contest that there is in REALITY very little pportunity to perform what could actually be termed "close-up" magic.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Re: "what about his skill as a cardician?"
He did a fine job with the card magic he presented in his specials. As to his mastery of card sleights... I doubt his work as a large scale performer allows him the time to perfect an invisible classic pass, the Stuart Gordon Double Lift, the Henistein and tabled Zarrow shuffles... you get the idea. IMHO what matters is that he does make the routines he performs look magical.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Larry Barnowsky Inner circle Cooperstown, NY where bats are made from 4770 Posts |
David is a perfectionist and that applies to his card magic as well.
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Paul Chosse V.I.P. 1955 - 2010 2389 Posts |
For those of you too young to remember, David Copperfield started doing a show "in one". He did wonderful split-fan productions, along with other card manipulations, all done perfectly.
He featured a "Dancing Cane", and is really responsible for the resurgence of interest in that trick in the seventies. I remember David when he was doing Elks Lodge Installation Banquets. In fact, I picked him up at SFO once, about 1977, for a show in San Francisco. He was underage, and had trouble getting into "The Magic Cellar Salloon", the showcase for magic in SF at the time. Boy does that seem a long time ago! At any rate, David was, and I presume, still is, an accoplished technician in all the various slieght-of-hand regimens. Thanks to forces out of the reach of many, David made the transition from a "single" to a larger show, so doesn't do much in the way of close-up in public shows, but I'm sure he is every bit as capable now as he was all those years ago... Best, PSC
"You can't steal a gift..." Dizzy Gillespie
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Chris Keppel Special user Kansas City MO 544 Posts |
I'm sure David isn't as polished as he once was but he doesn't do that anymore. It doesn't make millions a year by doing ambitious or twisting the aces. It's the same as Lance Burton. I'm sure he doesn't do triumph as well as he once did because he doesn't have to do that anymore. It's sort of like asking a close up magician who doesn't do stage how well he can do the spike trick, or produce doves. I'm sure David is very very skilled at cards, coins, ect still. He may not do it as well as he did when he was young, but I'm sure he hasn't lost much. I think he has done almost more for magic then any other magician. He set the stage for our magicians of today and let people relize that you can make a great living doing magic. Who knows, without him we may have never had Lance, Penn and T, Roy and S, ect. Ive have always loved David and what he has done for magic. Heck, you ask anyone who doesn't even like magic and they know who he is. He has brought magic to some what the level it is today. In todays day in age its all about the close up underground guys that not many people know but can do some amazing stuff. After all these years David is still amazing people all over the world.
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Pete Biro 1933 - 2018 18558 Posts |
With Chris Kenner as his numero uno aide, I would guess any card work, etc., he would have the best coaching and methods at his disposal.
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Mark Williams Special user Las Vegas, Nevada 513 Posts |
Pchosse-- You mean like this? http://photos.fotango.com/p/eba00411715f00000016.jpg
"Once is Magic!! Twice is an Education!!"
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daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
Hey! That photo is a kick! Dig that hair man!
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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Ron Giesecke Special user Redding, Ca. 947 Posts |
I always knew he was channeling Bob Saget.
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rannie Inner circle 4375 Posts |
DC would not be who he is if he were not an all around magician. His Granpa's Aces is an example of how dedicted he is with all braches of magic. Even his torn and restored card is the cleanest I have seen.
Rannie
"If you can't teach an old dog new tricks, trick the old dog to learn."
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
DC is every bit as proficent with cards, coins etc, as he is with the stage show. Give him a deck of cards sometime and have him show ya something (that is if you ever run into him, LOL)...I guarantee he won't just have ya "pick a card"!
Ever see him do Sankey's "Airtight"? Flawless. "Torn & Restord Baseball Card"? That's just a tiny example. Love to see an entire show, done close-up. That would be a treat. Doug |
daffydoug Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14077 Posts |
Airtight was not done as described in the instructions.
When I bought the effect, I expected to be able to do a version similar to David, but David never went to his briefcase for a knife, etc. I kind of felt a little gipped. Oh well. I could never load the deck of cards in the doggone baloon to start with. Worse than trying to get those two basketballs in the briefcase for double dribble.
The difficult must become easy, the easy beautiful and the beautiful magical.
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Bob Sanders Grammar Supervisor Magic Valley Ranch, Clanton, Alabama 20504 Posts |
There is unfortunately the frequent assumption that magicial professionals are either close up or stage. And that one excludes the other. It is not usually remotely near the facts. Virtually all magicians start as close up magicians. Some add stage magic. Most do not. Most never even become commercially successful as performers. Talent as a performer is rarely responsible for that. The business side of the entertainment field is a whole different set of talents. Talent buyers are business people who tend to resell the entertainment. They are there to exploit the resource for money.
It is interesting too, that as magicians age, they tend to return to close up in public. Doing close up in privite doesn't seem to ever change. Close up is fun; stage magic pays better. Having spent years as the owner of a booking agency, I had to recognize the reality that the term "professional" includes "does it for money". (I frequently lost million-seller recording artists to acting. It simply paid better.) Close up magic is something special, I expect, to all classes of magicians. We do trade shows, commercials, stage, night club or birthday magic usually for the money. Most of us do close up for our friends. It's a lot like singing Happy Birthday, it's not unimportant, it just doesn't pay as well as singing something else. My observation (43 years worth) is that close up magic pays best for those who write, teach and lecture. That is, they perform for other magicians. Close up magicians who perform for lay audiences don't do as well financially. Marketing professionals who also do magic at the corporate level are among the best paid close up magicians of all but it is usually for more than just the magic at events. But once again, it is the ability to combine talent as a magician with commercially sought qualities in a business environment. There is nothing mutually exclusive about stage and close up magic. Being able to drive well doesn't mean you can't ride a horse or swim well also. Don't assume that David Copperfield is a rank beginner at close up magic. Bob Magic By Sander |
Frog Prince New user Japan/Tokyo 70 Posts |
Hi! Everyone. I'm new to the card magic.
When DC act "grampa's aces" he vanish aces so beautifully. Where could I learn that vanish (Color Change?)? Is that DC's original technic? Thank you (*^o^*)
Croak..Croak..
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dynamiteassasin Inner circle Naval Air Facility, Atsugi, Japan 1158 Posts |
DC is a master of sleight of hand wheither it comes to cards, coins, spongeballs, thimbles, pens ans even silks.
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Pablo Tejero Inner circle Zaragoza, SPAIN 1201 Posts |
IMO Copperfield is probably one of the most complete magicians ever, and that includes also a great cards skill.
All the best magic, Pablo Tejero
"The Magic is in the air, you just have to... breathe it!"
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Fishsticks New user Greensboro, NC 70 Posts |
Copperfield is the best!
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