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On Dec 3, 2021, hugmagic wrote:
Fantasia's act is now part of the Copperfield collection. It was special for David as the Fantasio dancing and vanishing cane was one of his early favorites.


That is wonderful news to me! It means it will be preserved for all time. I've never seen the Copperfield museum. I wanted to attend the Magic Collectors Expo and the tour this year but had an unavoidable conflict that prevented me from getting to the West Coast in time.

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Did you know that he also made an automatic vanishing candle? Ken Klosterman had one. Pretty clever.


No, I did not! If I had I would definitely have asked Ken about it! I wonder if it will be included as part of the auctions?

He not only had a clever mechanical mind, but such a strong understanding of presentation. Look at how he fingertip displays the restored sheet. Those little nuances showed true mastery.

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So do you think Fantasio is using the Al Baker or Slydini version ? (both are a torn and restored of a single sheet of newspaper). I still can't really tell the difference between the two. Chronologically Al Baker's comes first , which makes me think that the Slydini version is simply Slydini's handling of Baker's version to suit his (Slydini's) own style , perhaps with some refinements , the "Slydini touch" ? I know Tony Clark has a video teaching his version of the Slydini handling, which he originally learned directly from Slydini himself. https://www.tonyclarkmagicstore.com/prod......tear-dvd


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So, this is off-topic on newspaper tears , but if anyone missed Tony Clark's appearance on Fool Us in 2020 , it's well worth your time to watch. (sorry for going off-topic, but I just watched this again recently and wanted to share) -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DwpOIAddkg





In this video Tony talks about how he developed the routine and also how he studied with Slydini.
I liked how he went out of his way to honor his mentor Slydini on his Fool Us appearance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65Yc2IXu0-M



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So do you think Fantasio is using the Al Baker or Slydini version ? (both are a torn and restored of a single sheet of newspaper). I still can't really tell the difference between the two. Chronologically Al Baker's comes first , which makes me think that the Slydini version is simply Slydini's handling of Baker's version to suit his (Slydini's) own style , perhaps with some refinements , the "Slydini touch" ? I know Tony Clark has a video teaching his version of the Slydini handling, which he originally learned directly from Slydini himself.


The version that was marketed under Slydini's name is the Baker T&R with one added thing which allows a freer display of both sides. Whether Slydini should be credited with that change is a matter of debate as Leon McGuire had done it before Slydini.

Where many have settled in crediting is grouping the various T&R newspapers based on the type of underlying folds. So, for example, Robert Baxt credits Gene Anderson in his great variation (which I personally use and love).

Under this nomenclature, the Slydini T&R could be called a Baker T&R. Fantasio does appear to use the added something associated with Slydini. Fielding West also teaches that version on the DVD mentioned above.
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Here it is performed by Fantasio as a straight torn and restored newspaper.



It turns out the checkered idea may have derived from a Pavel effect where a sheet with a white horse and a sheet with a black horse are torn and restored into a sheet with a Zebra. Pavel performed that on Ed Sullivan show and then later marketed it

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For comparison, here is Slydini performing the newspaper tear.

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I know Tony Clark has a video teaching his version of the Slydini handling, which he originally learned directly from Slydini himself. https://www.tonyclarkmagicstore.com/prod......tear-dvd


I am going to have to view his video. The way he spreads the pieces just prior to the restoration makes it smoother. I wonder if that is a refinement he made as Slydini appears to have a bit more movement.



On the topic of single pages, in one of Michael Lair's lectures he does a routine where a map cut in pieces is restored. The patter is clever and motivates why the map is in pieces. Finding motivation can be a bit more of a challenge with the general newspaper "no tear" approaches. The map he uses is made from a robust material so that it can be used over and over. So it may be more practical in some situations where prep time between shows is very limited. Axel Hecklau's poster restoration (which he himself mentioned above) is really an excellent option, especially if looking for something that can be customized for corporate and school shows. The restoration was such a surprise when I saw his Penguin lecture. If I did corporate magic it would definitely be on my short list. It also would be outstanding for baby gender reveal parties.

So many good options!
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Re: Slydini Newspaper Tear; I just discussed this with my father and he relayed that when Slydini taught it to him, Slydini did not credit anyone else. He simply stated that it was "his Torn and Restored Newspaper effect." He also wanted to relay that in his opinion, Slydini taught it and performed it better than anyone he has ever seen and that all the information one needs on Slydini's version can be learned from the Karl Fulves books that my father introduced to the magic community in 1976 and 1978.

If we're going off topic, I would be remiss if I didn't share Bill Wisch's free Lecture he did with Scott Wells of The Magic Word Podcast in April, 2020. He goes through the Slydini Linking Pins in depth (and how he brought the pins to Slydini's attention), as well as the Slydini palm, and also touches on Slydini's Misdirection. He also discusses how he is the only student ever authorized by Slydini to lecture or teach his magic.


In addition, my father also has a 3 DVD set available through Meir Yedid at Meir Yedid Magic. It features "Bill Wisch's Slydini Style, Bill Wisch's Close-Up Magic, and Bill Wisch's Card Magic". The entire 3 Video set is available at a special price only through my Dad direct, by emailing him at bill@wisch-craft.com
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On original topic, just received a DVD of the older Penguin Live Super Sampler. On it, John Lovick teaches his Torn and Restored Handbill. It adapts some elements of the Baker, Slydini, Elmsley, and comedy tear to an 8 1/2 X 11 tri-fold brochure. It could potentially be further adapted to a sheet from an art pad but this could be tricky as the printing on the brochure aids in the deceptiveness.

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Re: Slydini Newspaper Tear; I just discussed this with my father and he relayed that when Slydini taught it to him, Slydini did not credit anyone else. He simply stated that it was "his Torn and Restored Newspaper effect." He also wanted to relay that in his opinion, Slydini taught it and performed it better than anyone he has ever seen and that all the information one needs on Slydini's version can be learned from the Karl Fulves books that my father introduced to the magic community in 1976 and 1978.

If we're going off topic, I would be remiss if I didn't share Bill Wisch's free Lecture he did with Scott Wells of The Magic Word Podcast in April, 2020. He goes through the Slydini Linking Pins in depth (and how he brought the pins to Slydini's attention), as well as the Slydini palm, and also touches on Slydini's Misdirection. He also discusses how he is the only student ever authorized by Slydini to lecture or teach his magic.



In addition, my father also has a 3 DVD set available through Meir Yedid at Meir Yedid Magic. It features "Bill Wisch's Slydini Style, Bill Wisch's Close-Up Magic, and Bill Wisch's Card Magic". The entire 3 Video set is available at a special price only through my Dad direct, by emailing him at bill@wisch-craft.com


Wow. It must have been amazing learning directly from Slydini! Thank you for sharing his thoughts and thank you to him for all of his wonderful contributions to the magic literature! I will definitely need to pick up his videos and books.

Slydini's approach to magic is really starting to be given its due. Just this week Meir was on McBride's Mystery School Monday program talking about Slydini. And Reel Magic Magazine just announced a Slydini series.

Regarding Slydini's newspaper tear, I do think that he recognized both Hugard and Baker as sources. Hugard began the torn and restored newspaper craze in the U.S. when he marketed his version in 1929/1930.

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So Hugard was generally seen as the father of the modern newspaper tear. Al Baker credited Hugard when he released his version in 1931. A banquet honoring Hugard was held in 1955. At it, Slydini did a set of magic which derived from Hugard's materials. This included a torn and restored newspaper suggesting that Slydini also recognized Hugard’s influence. Interestingly, some commentators of the time noted that Slydini's approach was of the Al Baker variety. From Hugard's Magic Monthly Vol. 12 No. 10:

"The Parent Assembly's evening for Jean Hugard was another night for the memory book. The stage setting was a huge blowup of Desfor's fine portrait of the guest of honor. His many books surrounded it. Milbourne Christopher told of early Hugard days in Australia and his many, later activities. Al Flosso reminisced about Hugard's magic theatre in Luna Park, and gave a show-stopping sample of his own sideshow work. Tony Slydini was announced as doing some knots from Hugard books which he perfected. The torn and restored newspaper he did, following this, was pure Al Baker or I miss my guess. He got back to the Hugard theme later with fine design torn from newspaper with salutations to the Dean."

When Slydini's Newspaper Tear entered the market shortly after this, the ad copy expressly noted it was the Al Baker approach with the "bugs" worked out.

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This is how Gene Anderson and Frances Ireland Marshall characterized it in Newspaper Magic (With sections X'd over by me to hide method):

"THE AL BAKER NEWSPAPER TRICK
Most of the XXXXXXX methods XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX are built on the shoulders of Al Baker's torn and restored newspaper. In spite of these numerous "improvements", many magicians consider the original to be the best. Indeed, its strength lies in its simplicity. Especially recommended is a production feature which is now being included in the manuscript. This very practical method of XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX provides an excellent surprise ending.

Slydini'S TORN AND RESTORED NEWSPAPER
The primary feature of the Slydini torn and restored newspaper is the Slydini presentation itself. Almost casual in delivery, it lends itself beautifully to pantomime and the relaxed style of most manipulative-dove acts. Extremely clever as well, it requires XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX for its presentation!"

So the evolution of this technique looks analogous to how the Al Koran method was improved by Gene Anderson which was improved by Robert Baxt, etc. As they say, no-one lives in a vacuum…except a few astronauts now and then! Has any other trick in magic undergone so many variations over this long of a time?
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On original topic, just received a DVD of the older Penguin Live Super Sampler. On it, John Lovick teaches his Torn and Restored Handbill. It adapts some elements of the Baker, Slydini, Elmsley, and comedy tear to an 8 1/2 X 11 tri-fold brochure. It could potentially be further adapted to a sheet from an art pad but this could be tricky as the printing on the brochure aids in the deceptiveness.



The John Lovick adaptation of the effect to a handbill is great. He fooled Penn & Teller with it on "Fool Us".

https://youtu.be/cGGcCgSmoO4



(unfortunately that clip does not show the part where Lovick gives the restored handbill to Penn & Teller to examine , then Penn & Teller's reaction and their proclamation that he "fooled us", but that was the result. Handsome Jack (John Lovick) got the F.U. trophy)

Of course , this routine works fine without adding the extra Harry Anderson bit with "The Grappler" (holdout device), but that certainly worked for Handsome Jack's presentation.

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The John Lovick adaptation of the effect to a handbill is great. He fooled Penn & Teller with it on "Fool Us".


I missed that episode. What is crazy is that the same sampler includes John Archer's Blank Night. So that sampler had two P&T FUs on it!
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On original topic, just received a DVD of the older Penguin Live Super Sampler. On it, John Lovick teaches his Torn and Restored Handbill. It adapts some elements of the Baker, Slydini, Elmsley, and comedy tear to an 8 1/2 X 11 tri-fold brochure. It could potentially be further adapted to a sheet from an art pad but this could be tricky as the printing on the brochure aids in the deceptiveness.

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Re: Slydini Newspaper Tear; I just discussed this with my father and he relayed that when Slydini taught it to him, Slydini did not credit anyone else. He simply stated that it was "his Torn and Restored Newspaper effect." He also wanted to relay that in his opinion, Slydini taught it and performed it better than anyone he has ever seen and that all the information one needs on Slydini's version can be learned from the Karl Fulves books that my father introduced to the magic community in 1976 and 1978.

If we're going off topic, I would be remiss if I didn't share Bill Wisch's free Lecture he did with Scott Wells of The Magic Word Podcast in April, 2020. He goes through the Slydini Linking Pins in depth (and how he brought the pins to Slydini's attention), as well as the Slydini palm, and also touches on Slydini's Misdirection. He also discusses how he is the only student ever authorized by Slydini to lecture or teach his magic.



In addition, my father also has a 3 DVD set available through Meir Yedid at Meir Yedid Magic. It features "Bill Wisch's Slydini Style, Bill Wisch's Close-Up Magic, and Bill Wisch's Card Magic". The entire 3 Video set is available at a special price only through my Dad direct, by emailing him at bill@wisch-craft.com


Wow. It must have been amazing learning directly from Slydini! Thank you for sharing his thoughts and thank you to him for all of his wonderful contributions to the magic literature! I will definitely need to pick up his videos and books.

Slydini's approach to magic is really starting to be given its due. Just this week Meir was on McBride's Mystery School Monday program talking about Slydini. And Reel Magic Magazine just announced a Slydini series.

Regarding Slydini's newspaper tear, I do think that he recognized both Hugard and Baker as sources. Hugard began the torn and restored newspaper craze in the U.S. when he marketed his version in 1929/1930.

Image


So Hugard was generally seen as the father of the modern newspaper tear. Al Baker credited Hugard when he released his version in 1931. A banquet honoring Hugard was held in 1955. At it, Slydini did a set of magic which derived from Hugard's materials. This included a torn and restored newspaper suggesting that Slydini also recognized Hugard’s influence. Interestingly, some commentators of the time noted that Slydini's approach was of the Al Baker variety. From Hugard's Magic Monthly Vol. 12 No. 10:

"The Parent Assembly's evening for Jean Hugard was another night for the memory book. The stage setting was a huge blowup of Desfor's fine portrait of the guest of honor. His many books surrounded it. Milbourne Christopher told of early Hugard days in Australia and his many, later activities. Al Flosso reminisced about Hugard's magic theatre in Luna Park, and gave a show-stopping sample of his own sideshow work. Tony Slydini was announced as doing some knots from Hugard books which he perfected. The torn and restored newspaper he did, following this, was pure Al Baker or I miss my guess. He got back to the Hugard theme later with fine design torn from newspaper with salutations to the Dean."

When Slydini's Newspaper Tear entered the market shortly after this, the ad copy expressly noted it was the Al Baker approach with the "bugs" worked out.

Image


This is how Gene Anderson and Frances Ireland Marshall characterized it in Newspaper Magic (With sections X'd over by me to hide method):

"THE AL BAKER NEWSPAPER TRICK
Most of the XXXXXXX methods XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX are built on the shoulders of Al Baker's torn and restored newspaper. In spite of these numerous "improvements", many magicians consider the original to be the best. Indeed, its strength lies in its simplicity. Especially recommended is a production feature which is now being included in the manuscript. This very practical method of XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX provides an excellent surprise ending.

Slydini'S TORN AND RESTORED NEWSPAPER
The primary feature of the Slydini torn and restored newspaper is the Slydini presentation itself. Almost casual in delivery, it lends itself beautifully to pantomime and the relaxed style of most manipulative-dove acts. Extremely clever as well, it requires XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX for its presentation!"

So the evolution of this technique looks analogous to how the Al Koran method was improved by Gene Anderson which was improved by Robert Baxt, etc. As they say, no-one lives in a vacuum…except a few astronauts now and then! Has any other trick in magic undergone so many variations over this long of a time?


Thank you for the kind comments and the wonderful history, FrankFindley! Yes, no one does live in a vacuum! Smile

I'll have to see if my Dad has any discussion on his audio tapes with Slydini directly about the T/R newspaper. My Dad was blessed to take over 120 lessons and Slydini allowed him to audio record 38 hours of those lessons where nearly every conceivable topic on Slydini was covered. We just got done indexing all 38hours by timestamp- took my Dad 7 months to do the entire archive! For now, we're keeping most of the archive private, but in the meantime, check out the one's I've included below that are available on my Dad's Youtube channel. (Sorry for hijacking the thread, but I thought it would be appropriate to share!) Hope you enjoy them- particularly the one where Slydini discusses misdirection- it is quite fascinating.
- Kevin

Slydini Discusses Misdirection (Shoot and Relax positions)

Slydini's Psychological Coins Through the Table Alternate Ending

Slydini Aces

Slydini's Method to Tell if someone is Lying
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In John Grahams newly released book Stage by Stage by Vanishing inc, he teaches his Examiner newspaper tear. It is also released as a stand alone product with Paul Harris presents. The trick in the book is apparently slightly different from the stand alone release. It should cater to the OPs wish for a single sheet tear and restauration with the added benefit that the restored page can be handed out to the spectators. I have played a little with the concept and think it could be very useful. It doesn't have the flash restauration like Hecklaus News Flash, but maybe that's ok in favor of the possibility to hand it out in the end.
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UF Grant sold a torn and restored News Paper trick called ( Foolzum News Paper tear).
I had this back in 1960 and used it for many years,and still do. Simple but efective,and easy to prepare.
You can get this from Devin Knight, he's made an improvement on the working
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Hello all, I'm looking for a newspaper tear or other torn and restored to use with a single sheet from a large art pad.

The intended trick is drawing a picture on the board, tearing up the picture, and then restoring it shortly after. I have an idea taken from some other newspaper tears, but I would like to see what suggestions people have.


Just another thought in the same vein as The Examiner. Joshua Jay has a rather unique torn and restored newspaper in Magic The Complete Course. It uses the cover sheet from a folded tabloid newspaper. The methodology could potentially be tweaked to be even more effective using an art pad with a sheet torn from it. May be worth experimenting with it.
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Here is a clip of Lance Burton performing a single
page newspaper tear of sorts.

Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvAcgPlGhaQ
skip to 1.50 for the tear.

no idea what version it is but it's quite substantial.
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Here is a clip of Lance Burton performing a single
page newspaper tear of sorts.

Https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvAcgPlGhaQ
skip to 1.50 for the tear.

no idea what version it is but it's quite substantial.


That is the Neil Foster Center Tear as sold by Abbott's Magic Company. The additional use of fire is pure Burton.
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I know this was from a while ago, but my father just introduced his complete index of "The Slydini Tapes" to the magic community on Sept 1 of this year. The newspaper tear is indeed included on tapes 3A, 4B, and 5A. You can review the complete index in the video below. We have no current plans to release this footage at the moment, however, I wanted to let you know that Slydini teaching the Slydini Newspaper Tear, in his own words to my father, is catalogued and does indeed exist as I alluded to above. Thanks!

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