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Reference David's 'magic review', the advantage for me is (as described in the ad copy) the adjustable vibration levels available.
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Does no one care about ProMystic and Craig Filicetti?
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If you are using the Thumper for the 3 colored die then you can simply have them roll one dice at a time if you don't want to wait. Just a thought....


Not sure what you mean by “if you don’t want to wait”. Aren’t they required to roll one at a time?

Rather than using the 3 colored dice with the thumper I think it’s better to just use a single die and pass it around or have it rolled repeatedly.
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Yes I agree Bill , I have one die and the thumper is fantastic for just the one . I am a massive Promystic fan but to clear things up I have had the original of Craig’s for over 10 years but there were definitely others out before his and I considered a JB Magic one before Craig’s was even released Gaz 😊
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I am a great fan of Craig's and have a number of his products, including RDR, but competition brings innovation and perhaps we shall see Craig pinching this idea of adjustable vibration levels?
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Marc Antoine was the first to bring something really new with his thumper “coded” technology. His is way better than any others out there when it comes to dice or colored cubes.

Cobra Magic has added some really smart thinking with coded technology with their Super Chip Full Set.
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I am a great fan of Craig's and have a number of his products, including RDR, but competition brings innovation and perhaps we shall see Craig pinching this idea of adjustable vibration levels?


This is not competition, this is theft.

David in his magic review admits what Murphy's has released is not Anverdi's Die. Murphy's has done nothing but copy Craig's innovations. In all the years that Craig has been selling his products nobody has ever asked for an adjustable receiver, it's a useless gimmick to pass off a cheap imitation as something innovative.

Craig will not pinch anything, he has no interest in and no need for imitating others.
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At the end of the day my real die from Craig has never ever failed me in 1000’s of performances so I honestly do not see how that can be bettered . The thumper is very strong
(I have in it my sock ) yet undetectable by your audience ie cannot be heard so I wouldn’t wish for anymore . There are so many things you can use it for , I have had stooges cuing me with it for 1 in 6 smash and stabs and all sorts it’s so reliable and only limited by your imagination . I honestly don’t think it can be surpassed imo Gaz 🙂 ps I agree this sounds great value as a back up as Craig doesn’t make the original ones like have anymore anyhow
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To Mac_Stone as much as I love Craig’s stuff he wasn’t the first with this technology . I would really want to say he was but the truth is he wasn’t Gaz 🙂 Ps he is probably the best though imo
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Anverdi's Mental Die & Dice exposed on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QxXa27gHaM
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On Sep 23, 2020, RNK wrote:
If you are using the Thumper for the 3 colored die then you can simply have them roll one dice at a time if you don't want to wait. Just a thought....


Not sure what you mean by “if you don’t want to wait”. Aren’t they required to roll one at a time?

Rather than using the 3 colored dice with the thumper I think it’s better to just use a single die and pass it around or have it rolled repeatedly.



The spectator can roll all three colored dice one time using the thumper that comes with the mental die. You do not have to roll them one at a time using this thumper.
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In all the years that Craig has been selling his products nobody has ever asked for an adjustable receiver, it's a useless gimmick to pass off a cheap imitation as something innovative.

Craig will not pinch anything, he has no interest in and no need for imitating others.


Sorry man, but that is just bunk. And you know that there has NEVER been a request for an adjustable receiver, how?

Hugo Shelley has been offering an app with the ability to adjust settings such as thumper intensity for quite some time. Marc Antoine's app adjusts these settings too. Marc's will also convey the information so much faster and with a much decreased chance of the performer getting it wrong.

Craig is a great guy who releases great products but innovation is rarely a bad thing. If Craig would have added an adjustable receiver you would probably be praising its usefulness. Gaz says that Craig simply took an existing product and improved it, not created it. I don’t know if that’s true but it certainly points out that maybe we don’t have all the facts. It could possibly explain why Craig seems to be silent on this. I suspect that your feeling that this is unfair to Craig comprises about 10% of why you’re upset, and the other 90% is because you spent 10 times as much for the same effect and along with that came a lot more exclusivity, which are perfectly valid reasons to be upset about the release of this product.
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The spectator can roll all three colored dice one time using the thumper that comes with the mental die. You do not have to roll them one at a time using this thumper.


Oh, ok, I see what you’re saying.
Boy, you better hope that all 3 don’t roll high numbers or you better be highly skilled at secretly counting in your head (and accurately!) while still talking and engaging the audience. God forbid that you want to confirm the numbers by going through the sequence a second time. 😃

This a a good example of how Marc Antoine's thumper strategy would make it so much faster and easier.
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Anverdi's Mental Die & Dice exposed on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QxXa27gHaM


And that is why murphys ultra revealing trailers are bad.
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Actually videoman the problem, as KC Cameron has already pointed out, is that Murphy's flat out exposes these products in their own promotional material and floods the internet with it. What was once an exclusive underground secret is now a novelty that's only one google search away.

The pillars of modern mentalism have all aligned themselves with Craig and not the cheap imitations.
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Exactly and that video has 370K views
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I am 100% correct on this and as much as I love Craig and Promystic he never invented the electronic die with a Thumper it’s a fact . I went to Blackpool to buy another version that had around a while and found Craig there selling his better one and I bought it Gaz 🙂
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Craig is keeping his new release The O********* very private. It's a brand new principle for a well used mentalism 'device'. He has invested millions of dollars over the last 12 years to bring innovative products to the community and is taking a new approach to protect his secrets from the world. It's a mature response to the current situation.
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Millions of dollars that’s absolute rubbish and completely made up figures . The market isn’t there for it , as it’s only a few of us ie a very small percentage including me who pay the money for his products . Everyone else waits for the cheaper versions later down the line Gaz 🙂
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The sealed electronic die, used with a thumper, was first invented and brought to the magic market by Craig. That is the new product that was created. The concept of a die design of some sort with signaling was not even created by Anverdi, but well before that. Even if Murphy’s does have the rights to the Anverdi line, it doesn’t have the moral or ethical rights to sell the sealed die with a thumper, as those were incredible improvements first created by Craig. Compare the two products side by side, and it is easy to see that they aren’t even close. People who buy the Anverdi dice produced by Murphy’s show no respect for the ethics of magic or respect for intellectual property. For them, it is all about the dollars, and the arguments they use to justify their actions are just to assuage their own consciences and convince themselves that they are not just being cheap scavengers.
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