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debjit
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Didn't know magicians even had a problem with David Blaine. He was an original character performing magic on the streets like it hadn't been done before. He deserved all the fame and success he got.
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A little late to the mix but hopefully some interesting notes to ass to the thread.

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On Dec 23, 2015, Alexandermagic wrote:
I'm just reading all of this and wondering why is there so little attention being paid to what Blaine's real genius is, as Pete Biro pointed out, "Turning The Camera On The Spectators". That's really about it. No other magician had ever thought to go into gang ridden streets and do a double lift before. They certainly could have, and had ABC record it.


You're close but as is the case with many successful magicians it is a combination of timing, talent and luck. Yes, he sold the first special and I will say that he is VERY charismatic in his own way but his early magical skills were severely lacking. Yes, it was brilliant to turn the cameras on the spectator's reactions. The reason behind it is that he flashed so much, it was hard to find a usable close up of him doing the effect so the editors did the only thing they knew... audience cut away.

I should explain that in shooting a show like this, you always try and get cut-aways and audience reaction shots for editing purposes as it gives you a very easy buffer to cover bad edits. You might be able to find a match point to jump to a shot from another performance but the out points will seldom match as it was taken at two separate times. How do you cover it? Cut the audio to match then lay a reaction shot over it to cover the out point.

With his special they found themselves having to to that more and more and as they saw how it was playing, the production team began to use it as a style of shooting him. The less they saw of him and the more they got of the reactions, the better everyone looked.

Also, in his initial specials, he utilized... let's just say many "production tricks" to accomplish certain effects which I personally don't really respect.

To be fair, as he has grown, his magical skills have improved and I think he has grown into a very good magician where his skills match his charisma. He has created and defined his own style and as a result, we have thousands of YouTube "Street Magicians" copying him for better or for worse.

My main complaint in his early years was that he was fine in the restrictive television world but couldn't carry a live show. He has since proven that he can with a very successful live show that has a lot of very unique qualities to it. It took him a while to get there but he has definitely carved out his own place in Magic History.
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I think Blaine is really good. I see people saying "ah he's ok,nothing special." Isn't he? Seems pretty slick to me. Has his character down to a T. Cut his teeth doing functions etc

He certainly gave magic a fresh feel. Fair play to him in my opinion
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On Aug 24, 2018, Peter Morrissey wrote:
Seems pretty slick to me. Has his character down to a T.


I've always wondered what his real personality is like (or was like), outside of his performances.
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I reckon he would be just as he seems. Laid back and some what quite. Obviously I have no idea but I can't imagine him being a fast moving motor mouth
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I had a flight with him... just as dry and introverted as you might expect. It's not a character, that's just who he is.
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On Sep 2, 2018, Ray Pierce wrote:
I had a flight with him... just as dry and introverted as you might expect. It's not a character, that's just who he is.


I'm quite pleased to hear that. Did you get to talk to him for very long?
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Just bumping this as interested to hear from ray. Glad my suspicions confirmed.
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On Jun 13, 2004, Ron Giesecke wrote:
David Blaine did for magic what Yngwie Malmsteen did for guitar playing in the 1980's.


Greatest analogy ever!
...forever curious
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David Blaine gets good reactions . . because . . . he does the same trick(s) with LOTS of people.
They edit and re-edit and choose the best of the best tricks that had GREAT REACTIONS.
Some tricks were never shown on the Specials / TV.
Some did not have good REACTIONS.
Those were left out.

Sooooo, you take the Best of the Best out of 50 tricks / 50 difference audiences-groups of people,
and show the 6 or 7 tricks with the best reactions.
TV Special in the can.
That's what YOU SEE. The final product.

Unless WE are filming for a TV Special we can not get away with Not-So-Good-Reactions, time after time,
and then only let others only see the Best of the Best that we do.
WE . . do it LIVE. And it is MUCH harder to do a continuous show LIVE and be GREAT all the time.

If you have . . say . . $50,000-$100,000 bucks, you can GET 2 or 3 camera persons and film 50 of your effects, to small groups of people, and then choose 6 or 10 of the Best of the Best and present the edited film for a TV Special.
Some network would run that.
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A very interesting thread.

Even though I really don´t like his low energy performance style and his TV appearences with all the celebrieties over reacting, I have to agree with many others: of course he deserves his success. It´s all about supply and demand. If there are enough people watching his stuff, he must be right. And he brought attention to the Market/Industrie which is good for everyone within this industry: creators, magicians, wholesalers, magicshops, customers and Hobby magicicans (like me). Bestselling does not always mean it is the best, most artistic thing. Same in music or in the filmindustry.
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Unpopular opinion: Criss Angel made magic more popular than David Blaine
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