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Mike Powers Inner circle Midwest 2989 Posts 
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Definitely camera cuts. Perhaps that explains how the card got from a random position to (likely) position 3.
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EZrhythm Inner circle Only three EZ payments for a PDF of my 1937 Posts
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On Nov 9, 2020, Nikodemus wrote: I'm just debating this for fun. No concrete around here for miles. 
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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Tom G Inner circle SW Michigan 2911 Posts
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Not sure if this has been posted earlier, but the Garrett Thomas performance caused some controversy. Here, Mike Close and Garrett discuss his appearance. https://www.patreon.com/posts/43691718
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On Nov 7, 2020, MBAgamer wrote: The obviously appeared to be fooled. 
They may have rules against stooging but not against instant stooging. They also do not have a rule on fooling the people to believe they were fooled. 
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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Tim Cavendish Inner circle 1409 Posts
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Aliens did the trick for Boris with their X-ray vision to see the card's location and their mind-control ray to make Penn pick 3.
They were hidden from the audience's view with their invisibility powers. There may be rules against stooging, but not against invisible aliens. If necessary, I will make an additional 15 posts in this thread with my same assertion. |
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Mr Salk Special user Tied to 568 Posts
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On Nov 11, 2020, EZrhythm wrote: You discovered magic's biggest secret: Every trick you can't figure out is stoooged.
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On Nov 12, 2020, Tim Cavendish wrote: Okay, ready.
Will you be using a stooge or will you be faking it?
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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On Nov 12, 2020, Mr Salk wrote: Already been addressed, try again.
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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draupnir New user Texas 69 Posts
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To put some of the conspiracies to rest here is an interview with Boris where some questions about his fool us act are answered. He does state that the brick was factory sealed and each deck had cellophane, a seal, ad cards, and jokers and actually talks about how the deep fake voice helped for the method. Boris states he developed this routine for fool us and that he had to avoid principles and methods that he had published in the past to try and fool Penn and Teller. There was sleight of hand involved to get the card into position and I tend to agree that position 3 led to the perfect outcome. It can be rare but it’s not impossible for the spectator to name a number and you already have the card in place at that position. Ive even had a deck in stack and been lucky before where they call out the card and correct position (not many times but I had to refrain from freaking out when it happened lol) so for it to happen to Boris in such a critical moment is just even more amazing IF that’s how it happened. Penn and Teller have no reason to lie and they don’t know who is on the show until they walk out and perform so there is no way they were stooged. Penn even stated when Kostya did his Triumph routine that he knew the effect but didn’t know which method was used and here is a clear case of it. Boris also states that when Penn asked about the which happened first the deck being squared or the number being called that he knew he fooled them.
If you don’t care to watch the full interview and only want to hear the fool us parts go into the video description and skip to specific questions. https://youtu.be/odjCq1hfhLI |
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On Dec 8, 2020, draupnir wrote: BUT that could merely be a deceptive answer to what actually took place with and how the pack was chosen by Penn and the arrangement of the cards in the deck. Let's not forget that there are effects in which we can bring out items such as a deck of cards that appear factory sealed. Quote:
Boris states he developed this routine for fool us and that he had to avoid principles and methods that he had published in the past to try and fool Penn and Teller. There was sleight of hand involved to get the card into position and I tend to agree that position 3 led to the perfect outcome. It can be rare but it’s not impossible for the spectator to name a number and you already have the card in place at that position. Ive even had a deck in stack and been lucky before where they call out the card and correct position (not many times but I had to refrain from freaking out when it happened lol) so for it to happen to Boris in such a critical moment is just even more amazing IF that’s how it happened. I am absolutely not convinced that is how it went down as far as being PURE CHANCE that Penn said, "Three." This part is COMPLETELY slaying some magicians. 
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Penn and Teller have no reason to lie and they don’t know who is on the show until they walk out and perform so there is no way they were stooged. Absolutely they have a reason to lie- It's show biz involving magic! The major elements of which involve pretending, lying -whether outright or subtle, mis-directing with motions or words and that includes after the performance is over. What better time to stooge than when most everyone believes that you won't. Just because they don't know who will walk out on stage doesn't eliminate the ability to stooge. A performer could merely have a conversation ahead of the show with Penn or Teller whether a hint is given or an outright method is conceived to fool the pants off of the people and even more so, magicians and with stooging.
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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SleightlySpooky New user 50 Posts
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This is a stunning effect, thanks for sharing!
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Kjellstrom Inner circle Sweden, Scandinavia, Europe 5228 Posts
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Almost 2 million viewer has seen the youtube video... Wow! Very interesting comments on that youtube video...
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On Oct 9, 2020, CardGuyMike wrote: An interesting question is whether BW (or anyone) could get away with using a marked deck on Fool Us. It's hard to believe P&T would not notice - but maybe it could get under their radar if they assume it is so obvious no one would dare try? |
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Chessmann Inner circle 4249 Posts
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On Oct 30, 2020, Tim Cavendish wrote: I don't know, man...the number 3 is called...3 of them up there...sounds like a case of the three stooges to me 
My ex-cat was named "Muffin". "Vomit" would be a better name for her. AKA "The Evil Ball of Fur".
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FlorianHeller Regular user Bonn, Germany 200 Posts
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Just watched the video again, to me Boris did something to control the card at the 3rd position during the cut after Teller's shuffle, and got lucky with Penn's 3. Probably all there is to it.
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There is "probably" for one's perspective and then there's what actually happened. I say stooging even though Penn has mentioned in a podcast that they don't do that.
How many magicians does it take to change a lightbulb? Regardless, for magicians darkness is a time for d'lite.
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jared23m New user 61 Posts
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The beauty of this effect, similar to the Berglas effect, is that by nature of how it works, nobody will ever be able to figure it out no matter how many times you watch the video. We can only make educated guesses.
I would do anything to see this done just one more time. That's what makes it such a legendary performance! |
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Daegs Inner circle USA 4291 Posts
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> There is "probably" for one's perspective and then there's what actually happened.
This is exactly why it's completely ridiculous when the people actually involved have said it was luck and that they don't do stooging. Which is more likely, that a 1/52 probability worked out, or that Boris, Teller, Penn, and the entire team behind fool us are a bunch of liars??? If they're willing to break their own rules for Boris, why haven't they done it for any of the other magicians they have closer relationships with? |
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jared23m New user 61 Posts
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Yeah, if I'm hearing you correctly, I agree. Penn and Teller have purposefully painted themselves as some of the most honest liars in the entire business. I don't understand why this would be the moment where they just said "yeah, let's throw all principles out the window and be stooges on our own show called Fool Us."
Now, if the number was 4, or any number after that, and the handling was just as clean, this would be a different story and he might have a point. But I feel like there are very good reasons for it to be put in the third position in particular. |
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