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Chris.k
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Nice version it look similar to his puracaan
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Does anyone know if there is a performance video of his PURACAAN available to the public? I can't seem to find one.
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On Nov 13, 2023, jared23m wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a performance video of his PURACAAN available to the public? I can't seem to find one.

You can find puracaan here https://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S25278 but I don't think there is any available performance piblic
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No way did P&T agree to stooge this, total non-starter, why would they?

Occam's Razor - the card was at position 3 in the deck. Had any other number been named I suspect the ending of the trick would have looked slightly different. You get lucky once in a while (and how many times has Penn said "3" when asked for a number or a card? Seems a reasonable start point for me).
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By the way, another thing to mention in regards to editing on fool us:

Lots of magicians will get the footage from Fool Us and then edit the performance even further from what was originally aired. I think that is what happened here.

This is how Penn and Teller can claim there are no editing tricks on the show, but then when people watch it on YouTube it is unbacktrackable because it has been edited down by the magician.
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I definitely enjoeyed Boris' act. I recently got seriously back into magic, and that was one of the episodes I saw that really got the creative juices flowing. Such a fun, engaging performance.
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No way did P&T agree to stooge this, total non-starter, why would they?



We will never know why but I say they did. The effect was too clean. Penn & Teller did not convince me that they were fooled. They know cards very well.
There were opportunities for Penn and Teller to setup the effect. They prerecorded Penn's voice for sound bites. None of this is evidence but to me, if it looks like a duck...
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On Nov 14, 2023, JerryMN wrote:
No way did P&T agree to stooge this, total non-starter, why would they?



We will never know why but I say they did. The effect was too clean. Penn & Teller did not convince me that they were fooled. They know cards very well.
There were opportunities for Penn and Teller to setup the effect. They prerecorded Penn's voice for sound bites. None of this is evidence but to me, if it looks like a duck...


I agree it could have been done, between Boris and Teller the card could have been put at any position in the deck.

But I choose to believe in an alternative solution, that in my view is more likely
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Interesting point. Thank You for that.
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New to the forum and hoping I don't cross the line re: revelations, but I'm fairly convinced this is a combination of Boris's "The Ideal Effect" from Remarkable Card Magic (Vol. 1) and "PURACAAN" from Sensations.

I saw elsewhere online that they edited out a part of the trick where Boris spreads the cards on the table. If true, that makes the first part of the trick *exactly* the same as "The Ideal Effect". And then the finale with the card at any number was drawing heavily on PURACAAN. The fact that it was PURACAAN also pretty much 100% confirms that Penn's choice of the number 3 was extremely lucky for BW.
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Thank You for that Curtis! Great points and references. Yes, that was EXTREMELY lucky so much so that I am still calling it staged and stooged. Smile
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I can't tell if you're trolling or not, but I don't think it's so crazy he got lucky.

Getting lucky with ACAAN happens more often than people usually assume. The odds of a lucky hit are 1/52. That's not so low that it won't happen every now and then.

The more I've thought about it though... what I really take issue with is the way they edited out two very important parts of the method.

They removed Boris spreading the cards on the table after Teller returned his card and they removed Boris spreading the cards between his hands after Teller shuffles.

Removing those two bits really made the effect feel impossibly clean, because presented that way it *is* impossible. The effect can't be done the way it was televised.
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Excellent observation and I like that you are of aware of the effect and recognize the timing of the video edits. Thank You for sharing that. I enjoy this topic and hearing everyone's view on it.

No, not trolling at all just sharing my opinion. I know Penn and Teller have expressed that they do not allow stooging in the acts. I agree that there a lucky hits. I am merely speaking from my point of view, the video edits included. I will not directly say, It was stooged." but will express it as my opinion as it appears to me. It's show biz, it's their show and they can do as they please. If it actually was stooged and with the "no stooging" rule, that is a trick in itself and has fooled many.
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