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On Oct 14, 2020, Mr Salk wrote:
it couldn't get past audition for laymen in a show like Americas Got Talent. Quite honestly most workers wouldnt include it in their repertoire.


Yeah, no sh!t. This is a show with a very specific premise. And this is a card trick specifically designed for that very specific premise.

The premise is the plot is the presentation.
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Maybe, but there is a significant amount of work and process going into the final reveal to simply have multiple-outs. PT would see right through those shenanigans.


Quite possibly! I don't think we can do anything but guess at the method unless it's released though, especially since we know that the video's edited.

I've also seen plenty of routines that have elaborate final reveals that have that perfect "if the spectator selects X, skip the next part and just reveal it" bit and my only go-to for this routine, due to the lack of handling seen after Penn says "3", is multiple-outs. However, I haven't studied anything from Boris yet and I only know of his skill with marked decks so honestly he may really have a method for this that's available that doesn't require it and I'm just unaware. If so, I'll gladly add it to my queue Smile
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Let's notice some details:

Teller shuffles the deck and hands it to Boris. If we believe that nothing happened that was cut during the switches between cameras, then the card is at position 3 since he cleanly spreads to three and hands the cards to Penn.

Does anyone believe that we saw all that happened between the shuffle and spread to 3 and handing the 3 to Penn?? Either the card was at 3 or they cut out some handling.

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On Oct 14, 2020, Mr Salk wrote:
it couldn't get past audition for laymen in a show like Americas Got Talent. Quite honestly most workers wouldnt include it in their repertoire.


Yeah, no sh!t. This is a show with a very specific premise. And this is a card trick specifically designed for that very specific premise.

The premise is the plot is the presentation.


It seems we are both firmly in the camp that this is not a good trick for laypeople.
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If Boris built this on the bones of his PURACAAN, then the card was legitimately at 3 before Penn named his number.

What we didn't see is how it had any chance to get there.
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On Oct 15, 2020, Rupert Pupkin wrote:
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On Oct 14, 2020, Mr Salk wrote:
it couldn't get past audition for laymen in a show like Americas Got Talent. Quite honestly most workers wouldnt include it in their repertoire.


Yeah, no sh!t. This is a show with a very specific premise. And this is a card trick specifically designed for that very specific premise.

The premise is the plot is the presentation.


It seems we are both firmly in the camp that this is not a good trick for laypeople.


You wouldn't say the audience enjoyed the performance? I would.
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What made it very entertaining was the presentation. I think both P&T as well as the audience thought it was excellent.

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You wouldn't say the audience enjoyed the performance? I would.


The audience enjoyed the wit and narration in Penn's voice. This is a tough trick to entertain without gimmicks.
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You wouldn't say the audience enjoyed the performance? I would.


The audience enjoyed the wit and narration in Penn's voice. This is a tough trick to entertain without gimmicks.


It’s almost as if a live performance of a magic trick is more than the sum of its parts. Odd how that works out!
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Penn talked about this trick on his latest Podcast:

"That fooled us so deep, and that fooled Handsome Jack, and it fooled everybody. Boris did it the best anyone has ever done it. I'm dying to tell you part of his method but I will not. It's one of the greatest tricks I have ever seen."

Sounds like much more than a simple underspread or trick deck.
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Look at the video. It's either at 3 or something was cut. So it seems to me. I've been wrong before. What's an alternative theory?

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What made it very entertaining was the presentation


as with every trick. ever.
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I hope Boris Wild will publish this trick, soon. I really want to learn this superb effect. And, I still have no clue how it was done...
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For those who have wondered about a Phoenix deck being used instead of his "normal" marked deck, Phoenix has been selling Boris Wild Marked decks (In Phoenix back both red and blue) for over a year now. I have a few of them, they even have them in the new large index cards. I have no idea if that had anything to do with the effect but noticed a few questioned the Phoenix back.
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The editing was so incredibly professional that only Sans Minds could’ve been involved.
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On Oct 17, 2020, Mike Powers wrote:
Look at the video. It's either at 3 or something was cut. So it seems to me. I've been wrong before. What's an alternative theory?

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I've watched the video several times and what is getting me the most is this:

This is something Penn even questioned Boris about after the effect. Boris only asked Penn to name a number 1 through 52 after he was holding the deck square in his hands. Yes, it's true that he did do "something" to the deck in between the moment "Teller giving the deck to Boris" and "Boris' holding the deck square in his hands." Something definitely happened in between these two moments. But the number was only named after both moments passed, that is, it was only named once Boris was holding the deck square in his hands. So after the number was named it seems Boris could not have done anything, since the deck was already shut and squared in his hands.
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