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On Apr 16, 2021, mrmagik68 wrote:
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On Apr 16, 2021, magic.42 wrote:
Here are a few books you can find the Stuart Gordon turn over:

The Magic of Ascanio - Studies of Card Magic Part Two by Jesus Etcheverry.......pg 223
Enchantments by Westley James...........................................................................pg 164
Smooth Operations by Kevin Ho.............................................................................pg 8
Reflections by Helder Guimaraes............................................................................pg 64




Darn! None of which I have lol. I think Ortiz teaches it one of his books. I'll take a look tomorrow. But thanks for the list!



Roberto
A few more sources:

Stuart Gordon Double-Card Turnover

According to Jamy Ian Swiss in Devious Standards, 2011, p. 122, Stuart Gordon executed his technique immediately after dribbling the cards, rather than from a squared deck, as later magicians (see below) altered it, although the type of get-ready doesn't affect the turnover itself. The move was reported to have been learned from Gordon and used by a select few, such as David Roth and Earl Nelson, as early as 1974, and then published by Larry Jennings and Darwin Ortiz; see The Cardwright by Mike Maxwell, 1988, p. 114; and Cardshark, 1995, p. 106, respectively.

Before that, Ken Simmons published the turnover in Riffling the Pasteboards, 1986, p. 8, but without mention (and seemingly without knowledge) of Stuart Gordon. It was unclear if Simmons intended to claim origination, as he prefaces the trick it appears in, “Ace-Bitiously Yours”, by writing, “You won't find any new or revolutionary moves here…” However, in Banded Deck Effects 1991, Simmons explicitly makes the claim of originality on p. 27. Subsequent research proved that Gordon preceded Simmons; see Wesley James's summary in Enchantments, 2004, p. 164.

The central dynamic of the technique involves the magician sliding his thumb down the surface of the double as it is being turned over. This thumb slide is older than the Gordon technique. George Pittman utilized it in the Pittman One-Hand Double Lift from The Sphinx, Vol. 48 No. 2, Apr. 1949, p. 35. And in David Ben's Zarrow: A Lifetime of Magic, 2008, p. 341, this thumb slide was used in one of the “Loose Lifts” Zarrow developed c. 1950.

https://www.conjuringarchive.com/list/person/530

Also, try googling The Stuart Gordon Double lift, you'll find quite a bit.
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Here's the Erudite Magic review of Carney's latest:

https://youtu.be/RZZpDjXrW1M
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On Apr 17, 2021, motown wrote:
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On Apr 16, 2021, mrmagik68 wrote:
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On Apr 16, 2021, magic.42 wrote:
Here are a few books you can find the Stuart Gordon turn over:

The Magic of Ascanio - Studies of Card Magic Part Two by Jesus Etcheverry.......pg 223
Enchantments by Westley James...........................................................................pg 164
Smooth Operations by Kevin Ho.............................................................................pg 8
Reflections by Helder Guimaraes............................................................................pg 64




Darn! None of which I have lol. I think Ortiz teaches it one of his books. I'll take a look tomorrow. But thanks for the list!



Roberto
A few more sources:

Stuart Gordon Double-Card Turnover

According to Jamy Ian Swiss in Devious Standards, 2011, p. 122, Stuart Gordon executed his technique immediately after dribbling the cards, rather than from a squared deck, as later magicians (see below) altered it, although the type of get-ready doesn't affect the turnover itself. The move was reported to have been learned from Gordon and used by a select few, such as David Roth and Earl Nelson, as early as 1974, and then published by Larry Jennings and Darwin Ortiz; see The Cardwright by Mike Maxwell, 1988, p. 114; and Cardshark, 1995, p. 106, respectively.

Before that, Ken Simmons published the turnover in Riffling the Pasteboards, 1986, p. 8, but without mention (and seemingly without knowledge) of Stuart Gordon. It was unclear if Simmons intended to claim origination, as he prefaces the trick it appears in, “Ace-Bitiously Yours”, by writing, “You won't find any new or revolutionary moves here…” However, in Banded Deck Effects 1991, Simmons explicitly makes the claim of originality on p. 27. Subsequent research proved that Gordon preceded Simmons; see Wesley James's summary in Enchantments, 2004, p. 164.

The central dynamic of the technique involves the magician sliding his thumb down the surface of the double as it is being turned over. This thumb slide is older than the Gordon technique. George Pittman utilized it in the Pittman One-Hand Double Lift from The Sphinx, Vol. 48 No. 2, Apr. 1949, p. 35. And in David Ben's Zarrow: A Lifetime of Magic, 2008, p. 341, this thumb slide was used in one of the “Loose Lifts” Zarrow developed c. 1950.

https://www.conjuringarchive.com/list/person/530

Also, try googling The Stuart Gordon Double lift, you'll find quite a bit.



Hey motown,

Great stuff! Thank you sir! I appreciate the time you took in listing several sources and details on the Stuart-Gordon Double Lift. I have my copy of Cardshark and Devious Standards in front of me now and will review those. I've read over Carney's routine, Back Home, from Sleights & Insights several times. It's a nicely constructed routine however, I will make a few adjustments to fit my style. Thanks again for your help!




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On Apr 18, 2021, Dr. JK wrote:
Here's the Erudite Magic review of Carney's latest:

https://youtu.be/RZZpDjXrW1M


Dr. JK, great review, thanks for sharing that with us! I agree, it's a really good book, loaded with lots of good magic and really great ideas/concepts. Most of the effects in the book I will never do myself but I do plan on studying them regardless. My only critique is that I don't think some of the descriptions in the routine, Back Home, were detailed enough as I had a hard time understanding certain handlings. Also, I could not understand his description for the Vernon Hand Wash, which was something I was really looking forward to studying. Lastly, I think the photos are a bit small. These are moments where I wish Carney had included video snippets on some of the moves, etc.. Either way, I think it's still a great book worthy of careful study. Thank you again for your great review!



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Roberto [/quote] A few more sources:

Stuart Gordon Double-Card Turnover

According to Jamy Ian Swiss in Devious Standards, 2011, p. 122, Stuart Gordon executed his technique immediately after dribbling the cards, rather than from a squared deck, as later magicians (see below) altered it, although the type of get-ready doesn't affect the turnover itself. The move was reported to have been learned from Gordon and used by a select few, such as David Roth and Earl Nelson, as early as 1974, and then published by Larry Jennings and Darwin Ortiz; see The Cardwright by Mike Maxwell, 1988, p. 114; and Cardshark, 1995, p. 106, respectively.

Before that, Ken Simmons published the turnover in Riffling the Pasteboards, 1986, p. 8, but without mention (and seemingly without knowledge) of Stuart Gordon. It was unclear if Simmons intended to claim origination, as he prefaces the trick it appears in, “Ace-Bitiously Yours”, by writing, “You won't find any new or revolutionary moves here…” However, in Banded Deck Effects 1991, Simmons explicitly makes the claim of originality on p. 27. Subsequent research proved that Gordon preceded Simmons; see Wesley James's summary in Enchantments, 2004, p. 164.

The central dynamic of the technique involves the magician sliding his thumb down the surface of the double as it is being turned over. This thumb slide is older than the Gordon technique. George Pittman utilized it in the Pittman One-Hand Double Lift from The Sphinx, Vol. 48 No. 2, Apr. 1949, p. 35. And in David Ben's Zarrow: A Lifetime of Magic, 2008, p. 341, this thumb slide was used in one of the “Loose Lifts” Zarrow developed c. 1950.

https://www.conjuringarchive.com/list/person/530

Also, try googling The Stuart Gordon Double lift, you'll find quite a bit. [/quote]


Hey motown,

Great stuff! Thank you sir! I appreciate the time you took in listing several sources and details on the Stuart-Gordon Double Lift. I have my copy of Cardshark and Devious Standards in front of me now and will review those. I've read over Carney's routine, Back Home, from Sleights & Insights several times. It's a nicely constructed routine however, I will make a few adjustments to fit my style. Thanks again for your help!




Roberto [/quote] Hi Roberto, perhaps you could shoot John an email for clarification on something you're not understanding with Back Home.

It's worth a try.
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On Apr 18, 2021, mrmagik68 wrote:
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On Apr 18, 2021, Dr. JK wrote:
Here's the Erudite Magic review of Carney's latest:

https://youtu.be/RZZpDjXrW1M


Dr. JK, great review, thanks for sharing that with us! I agree, it's a really good book, loaded with lots of good magic and really great ideas/concepts. Most of the effects in the book I will never do myself but I do plan on studying them regardless. My only critique is that I don't think some of the descriptions in the routine, Back Home, were detailed enough as I had a hard time understanding certain handlings. Also, I could not understand his description for the Vernon Hand Wash, which was something I was really looking forward to studying. Lastly, I think the photos are a bit small. These are moments where I wish Carney had included video snippets on some of the moves, etc.. Either way, I think it's still a great book worthy of careful study. Thank you again for your great review!



Roberto

Thanks, Roberto! If you have difficulty understanding any of the moves, I encourage you to reach out to Mr. Carney directly. He may be able to help...regardless, best of luck to you!
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Yes, I thought about emailing him. Might just do that. Thanks!





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Curious... has anyone on the West coast received their book yet?
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@magiguy,

NorCal here. Haven't received mine, so I emailed John directly. He responded quickly (a couple hours).

You WILL want to do the same if you ordered/pre-ordered.

Include order number and paypal transaction id.


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I ordered one of the deluxe editions. John had emailed earlier me saying it would be delayed because they needed to get the physical book before making the slip cases to make sure they would fit correctly. It arrived today and is a perfect fit. If anyone ordered a deluxe edition and haven't yet received it, it should be on its way.

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